first cycle help

[firewalker]

Hi, IM brand new to site and have been reseaching a long time And this is what I came up with for first time use. Test cyp 400mg a week 200 on mon and 200 on TH. for 10 week. on week 11 and 12 hcg not sure how much and then 13-16 nolvadex 40 40 20 any input
My stats 35years old. lifting for 15 years. height 5'-6" and 165lbs at about 14% body fat.

Do I need to start hcg at week 3? or can I just use it the end? P.S dont want the nuts to shrink.



Any input would help thanks

 

[therrienri]

WELCOME TO EF!

need a better pct IMO ditch the nolva pick up some hcgenerate and unleashed/post cycle

 

[TheRippedReverend]

Hi, IM brand new to site and have been reseaching a long time And this is what I came up with for first time use. Test cyp 400mg a week 200 on mon and 200 on TH. for 10 week. on week 11 and 12 hcg not sure how much and then 13-16 nolvadex 40 40 20 any input
My stats 35years old. lifting for 15 years. height 5'-6" and 165lbs at about 14% body fat.

Do I need to start hcg at week 3? or can I just use it the end? P.S dont want the nuts to shrink.



Any input would help thanks

My problem is you been lifting for 15 years and your 165.

Train harder and diet

No aas

 

[burnthiscorpse]

I have to agree that if yo uhave been training 15 yrs you should have accomplished alot more than 165. However, if your determined to take the plunge then do yourself a big favor and hit the diet and training forums and post up and make sure you get your shit in order first. I guarantee you need a better workout program. Get on a new one and give yourself a month or two in it so you dont spend your cycle sore as hell all the time. Give yourself that time to get used to eating alot more than you do on your new diet that your going to post up and get.

At 35 some test will do you wonders. Obviously the test your speaking of is 200mg/ml. Want some solid advice...? Start with 300 wk. not 400. 300mg is plenty to grow off of especially for your first time. I grew on 250mg at 21 my first time. No need for 400. Save it for a later run when 300 doesnt work so well.

 

[firewalker]

at 300mg a wk can a pin once a week 1.5cc? and do I need to start hcg at 3 weeks or can i wait till end of 10 week cycle before pct? I dont wont the nuts to shrink

 

[burnthiscorpse]

at 300mg a wk can a pin once a week 1.5cc? and do I need to start hcg at 3 weeks or can i wait till end of 10 week cycle before pct? I dont wont the nuts to shrink

The ideal scenario would be to pin every 3.5 days. .75ml each time. Or even 200 and 100 split(although bros will disagree with the lop sided dosing). But yes...you can inject once a week but do it every 5th day.
As soon as you notice shrinkage i would start HCG. should be around week 3.
Let me guess...you dont want your nuts to shrink because your hiding this deal from your wife or GF??

You need to look into a much better PCT too bro. Your gonna lose alot if you just run nolva. At your age its gonna be alot harder to recover then someone who is in their mid 20's.

 

[TheRippedReverend]

at 300mg a wk can a pin once a week 1.5cc? and do I need to start hcg at 3 weeks or can i wait till end of 10 week cycle before pct? I dont wont the nuts to shrink

You need to learn how to train and eat!

Aas is not magic

 

[burnthiscorpse]

You need to learn how to train east it!

Aas is not magic

Read post #4 bro.... even though I said what I said I think he's focused on doing what he's thinking regardless.
I hope he changes hit shit up or he will be very dissapointed.

 

[TheRippedReverend]

Read post #4 bro.... even though I said what I said I think he's focused on doing what he's thinking regardless.
I hope he changes hit shit up or he will be very dissapointed.

I did. Good post btw.

Yeah he prob is but thats bc he was taught elsewise am sure. Like most they think I can take roids and Ill be Mr. O.

We need to try to stir him the write way in which we are but looks like hes gonna do it his way he'll learn.

 

[GreenBastard]

look up arnolds volume training online, especially his routine from the olympia days. Also look into dogcrappe, and google mike mentzer. Read about these styles of training and try one of them if it were me i would try to put on another 10lbs before pinning. shoot for around 1.5g of protein per pound of bodyweight, at least 3500 calories. You cant rev your car to 7000rpm without any fuel, the same applies to your body.

I would run test cyp at 300mg with a d bol kickstart at 30mg ed for the first 4 weeks, with 40mg of anavar at the last 4 weeks do a 12 week cycle. Start hcgenerate around week 10, run arimidex or aromasin for an AI the entire length of the cycle and pct. PCT should be unleashed pc, HCgenerate, with milk thistle, maybe some liv 52, clomid possibly, look at the sticky post at the top of the page that talks about holistic pct.

This stuff is not cheap and it is not easy. No one can afford to screw it up you can end up with a very bitter taste in your mouth (along with motivational issues, small nuts, acne, bitch tits, water weight, low test etc, ive seen it happen and do not take this stuff lightly) its much more than just ramming a needle in your ass make sure you have all your bases covered, thats why we are here! best of luck!

 

[firewalker]

Ok so I will run 300 of test every 5 days for 10 weeks and arimedx .25 eod.my question is when starting hcg at week 3 is 250iu once a week enough and do i keep the dose the same till week 12 when I start pct? I will go with unleashed for pct