first cycle help

[TM248]

i'm currently 5'10" 175lbs Bf is low, but i don't know exactly what it is,

i'm looking to go with this

w1-4 dbol 20mg/day
w1-10 sus250 250mg/week

w13-15 PCT with clomid

i need something inbetween the last shot of Sus and my PCT. any suggestions?

and remember this is my first cycle

thanks

 

[nydj66]

If you're on a budget finish the cycle with winny. If you can afford it, finish the cycle with anavar.

Some people will grow on 250mg/week of test but a lot will not. I'd bump the sust to 400mg/wk (0.8cc twice weekly).

 

[TM248]

for both winny and anavar, what dosages would you say would work for this cycle and a first time user

 

[UFC22]

I'm running Cyp at 400mgs/EW and it's my 3rd cycle. I'm loving it, but then again I'm also running Tren E at 300mgs/EW. I like your cycle, it's very simple. Winny 50mgs/ED and Var 40-60mgs/ED.

 

[xrsist]

i'm currently 5'10" 175lbs Bf is low, but i don't know exactly what it is,

i'm looking to go with this

w1-4 dbol 20mg/day
w1-10 sus250 250mg/week

w13-15 PCT with clomid

i need something inbetween the last shot of Sus and my PCT. any suggestions?

and remember this is my first cycle

thanks

bro as long as your training hard, eating everything and getting plenty of sleep the sustanon at 250mg a week alone would be ok. you might wanna save the dbol for another cycle cause this being your first you should keep it simple, your choice tho. clomid 50mg a day for 20-30 days bro.

 

[TM248]

alright well i'm about 2 weeks away from starting my cycle and i am using Winny at the end so here's the cycle

w1-4 dbol 20mg/day
w1-10 sus250 250mg/day
w9-12 winstrol 60mg/day (i'm using 20mg capsules)
w13-15 clomid (w13 100mg/day--w14/15 50mg/day)

any suggestions?

 

[BigCracker]

alright well i'm about 2 weeks away from starting my cycle and i am using Winny at the end so here's the cycle

w1-4 dbol 20mg/day
w1-10 sus250 250mg/day
w9-12 winstrol 60mg/day (i'm using 20mg capsules)
w13-15 clomid (w13 100mg/day--w14/15 50mg/day)

any suggestions?

Dude, you're trying to take a fruit cocktail on your 1st run. Dosages are sensible, but since everybody reacts differently to different compounds you will learn very little about how your body responds to this combo of drugs. You are setting yourself up for side effects and you won't have any idea which drug is causing them. Nor will you be able to tell which compound gives you the best gains.

Because sustanon is essentially 4 different drugs in one, by adding winny and dbol you taking 5-6 different compounds at once. I suggest using Test E 250mgs week 1-10 for your 1st run. This will give you an idea of how well your body responds to this compound and if you have a lot of nasty side effects you know exactly what's causing them so you can avoid taking Test E in the future.

The cycle you're presently planning on using is not bad for a 3rd or 4th run, but should not be your 1st. Find out how your body responds to the basic test only cycle. If that goes well, add dbol or deca next time. After that try sustanon and winstrol, etc. IMNSHO, you're trying to run before you can walk, walk before you crawl. I know you're enthusiastic, but if you're sensible and patient about your AS use(2 things a majority of the guys here lack)you will benefit from it in the long run.

 

[dawg4life]

Yeah Bro listen to Cracker...To much to fast can Fuc#%you up....

 

[ALIN]

i'm currently 5'10" 175lbs Bf is low, but i don't know exactly what it is,

i'm looking to go with this

w1-4 dbol 20mg/day
w1-10 sus250 250mg/week

w13-15 PCT with clomid

i need something inbetween the last shot of Sus and my PCT. any suggestions?

and remember this is my first cycle

thanks

I would bump the SUST to 500MG WK (injected 2x per week)
run an AI like arimidex or letrozole
use NOLVA and CLOMID for PCT for 3 wks after cycle.

 

[BigCracker]

I would bump the SUST to 500MG WK (injected 2x per week)
run an AI like arimidex or letrozole
use NOLVA and CLOMID for PCT for 3 wks after cycle.

Yeah, up the dose, up the side effects, and up the chance for joint injuries. Life is too short to not be as big as possible as quickly as possible. My low mgs/single compound suggestion is outdated 411. The new skool 1st cycle protocol is 500-1000mgs/wk these days. My bad.

I'm sure that's probably just what he wants to hear so he'll probably listen to you.

 

[Mrpumped]

Yeah, up the dose, up the side effects, and up the chance for joint injuries. Life is too short to not be as big as possible as quickly as possible. My low mgs/single compound suggestion is outdated 411. The new skool 1st cycle protocol is 500-1000mgs/wk these days. My bad.

I'm sure that's probably just what he wants to hear so he'll probably listen to you.

I agree that he should keep his first one simple but do a reasonable dose like:

1-10 500mg of Sust.
AI throughout. Maybe Aromisan or AIFM.
Pct: 500iu of HCG ed for ten days. Then 50mg of Clomid for 3 weeks.

 

[thefantom1]

xrsist hit it on the head... just use the sus at 250 a week for your first cycle... save the other stuff till you have learned much more about anabolics... trust me.....