First cycle help needed

[terrinewb]

I'm 24 years old male
5’9 tall
161 lbs
9% body fat

This is my first cycle. I am 6 weeks out from a mens physique show and considering a 4 week test prop/anavar cycle.

I've been training since I was 22 and I've been consistently training for nearly 3 years now.

My goal is to get a thick and full look on stage while also having a dry/hardened look

Here is my cycle proposal:

Week 1 to 4:Test prop @ 300mg per week. (100mg EOD)
Week 1 to 4:Anavar @ 80mg a day
Week 2 to 4: hCG @ 1000iu IU weekly

PCT after 4 days with Clomid @ 75/50/50/50 and Nolva @ 40/20/20/20 for 4 weeks

Please can you critique my cycle and let me know if there any changes I should make?

 

[jtmdell]

I think for a first cycle you will be fine, you have room to bump up the test of you want. Masteron will get you really hard for your contest but I don't know if you want to go that route on your first time out. Good luck with your show

 

[synthazeus]

I wouldn't recommend this for someone who's 160 and 9% bf just because you already sound lean enough man, and this is straight up cutting cycle. I reckon a test e/dbol cycle with be good for you

 

[jtmdell]

I wouldn't recommend this for someone who's 160 and 9% bf just because you already sound lean enough man, and this is straight up cutting cycle. I reckon a test e/dbol cycle with be good for you

Don't forget he's prepping for a show and might want to avoid throwing on a lot of water weight. It'd be perfect for a bulk though

 

[bigorse]

Are you only doing one show? If so you could run say anavar and prop 4 weeks out till the show then switch to a longer ester test after the show and transition into a bulking cycle so that your cycle is 12 weeks total. Make sure you use a good AI like letro if you want a hard look esp. Since hcg aromatizes fairly heavily infact i probably wouldnt recomend hcg before the show.

 

[terrinewb]

I'm only doing one show but want to stay fairly lean for the month after as have a few expos and shoots planned. Should I replace the Hcg with letro? What timing and doses should I do on it?

Anavar and test prop should give me the a nice really lean but full look right minus the bloat? I am fairly lean but need to be absolutely shredded while looking full and not flat

 

[bigorse]

Yeah correct. Your cycle looks fine pre contest. I would drop the hcg and run letro along side. Letro will dry you right out. You could always swurch to a long estered test post show and lean bulk on it, but its all up to you. Good luck

 

[synthazeus]

Don't forget he's prepping for a show and might want to avoid throwing on a lot of water weight. It'd be perfect for a bulk though

Oh I apologise I didn't read properly haha. In that case change the test to winny and chuck in letrozole 4 weeks out from contest day, my opinion you'll be ur most shredded.

 

[synthazeus]

Sorry change the var to winny* lol

 

[terrinewb]

Thanks guys, some great help here, what dosages should I run on the letro? And are my pct dosages ok?

 

[bigorse]

Thanks guys, some great help here, what dosages should I run on the letro? And are my pct dosages ok?

im not overly familiar with forma, but pct looks alright. maybe some clomid wouldnt hurt but if your only going to do the short cycle that you have planned recovery should be relatively smooth however it varies person to person.
synthazues has more experience with letro than i, but i would do it as follows

1-2 .5mg
3-4 1mg
5 2mg
6 2.5mg

with week 6 being the week of the show. this is a pretty aggresive dosage and letro will dry you out and you may get sore joints but if your after your best look then thats something you will have to put up with. if you choose winny (which i also believe is better than var for your goals) you will be dry as a bone on stage providing diet is good. also you want to taper of letro so you dont get as bad of estrogen rebound and/or add aromasin in pct as it's a suicidal AI and wont give as much rebound.

good luck man

 

[synthazeus]

Hmm start letro low man. It's good but will crush ur estrogen levels far beyond what they should if u use to much, this will fuck with ur hormones and u will have a crazy chemical imbalance and your test levels won't rise. Remember u won't estrogen to stay moderate in pct to allow ur natty test levels to balance out with it.

Good place is RUI/AR-R to get letro. It's a legal site so no one Bash me for posting a source lol.

 

[bigorse]

Hmm start letro low man. It's good but will crush ur estrogen levels far beyond what they should if u use to much, this will fuck with ur hormones and u will have a crazy chemical imbalance and your test levels won't rise. Remember u won't estrogen to stay moderate in pct to allow ur natty test levels to balance out with it.

Good place is RUI/AR-R to get letro. It's a legal site so no one Bash me for posting a source lol.

It will definitely kill estrogen way beyond what your body wants but imo thats how you achieve your best look. Id change letro to asin in pct to stop rebound but also let estrogen get back to a normal range. You may find that 1mg gets you more than dry enough, thats the good thing about tapering up. If a lower dose is doing the job no need to increase the dose

 

[Elvia1023]

There is so much wrong with your cycle I don't no where to start. You are gonna waste your 1st cycle for just 4 weeks on. I know you have a show... you should have started week ago if you wanted to run a cycle. Now you want to run one and crash hard before your show. Granted you will look better than if you never used anything but still I would honestly do the show natural. Then I would pick another show in a few months time and do that enhanced and I bet if you follow my advice you look incredible for it.

Letrozole can destroy estrogen in many ways but not as much as people think. All the studies showing zero estrogen were done on women. Doses such as 2.5mg daily show nothing like those levels in men. I would only recommend letro for drying out for contests. The guys before me summed it up... start lower and build up over time. 1mg should be enough but for that extra dryness the higher doses such as 2.5mg can do that in a matter od days.

 

[terrinewb]

What if I extended it to 7 weeks and ran it through the show?