First Cycle Critique

[sledhead09]

I am about to start my first cycle. 31 years old 5'11 170LB Body fat is 18%and have been working out for 2 years now.

weeks 1-8 Papervar 30mg
250 a week of Test enth for 8 weeks
Starting clomid at 3 weeks after last shot of test 200mg first day then 100mg next 10 and 50mg for the last 10 days. I have Nolva on hand just in case.

How does this look?

Also would it be a bad idea to mix clen in this cycle. Thanks for your help.

 

[DIVISION]

My changes:


week 4-12 Winstrol 50MG ed
week 1-12 Test Enanthate 250MG ew

Starting clomid at 3 weeks after last shot of test 200mg first day then 100mg next 10 and 50mg for the last 10 days. I have Nolva on hand just in case.

Clen is optional.....couldn't hurt.





DIV

 

[Bruce]

, u need to use an injectable for 12 weeks alone on your first, run the test at 250 or 500 a week for 12 weeks, then pct, if you really want to use the var do it the last 5 weeks, but run for 12 weeks and if your still gainin even up to 14 no reason to run an 8 weeker

 

[Apexx]

I am about to start my first cycle. 31 years old 5'11 170LB Body fat is 18%and have been working out for 2 years now.

weeks 1-8 Papervar 30mg
250 a week of Test enth for 8 weeks
Starting clomid at 3 weeks after last shot of test 200mg first day then 100mg next 10 and 50mg for the last 10 days. I have Nolva on hand just in case.

How does this look?

Also would it be a bad idea to mix clen in this cycle. Thanks for your help.

not sure what you're goals are, but I bet you'd be a lot happier with the results of your cycle if you cut about 5% off of that bf first

 

[DIVISION]

not sure what you're goals are, but I bet you'd be a lot happier with the results of your cycle if you cut about 5% off of that bf first

You've echoed this sentiment before.......this 5% is really killing you ApexxNugg.....

If he's going for performance, the 5% can't hurt..........only if he going for aesthetics would it make a difference.





DIV

 

[slat1]

I agree with apexx as usual. I would get your diet spot on and drop the body fat below 15%. I personally will not touch anything unless I'm below 10%. My rational is that if I can't do what I have to do (diet/workout properly) to stay below 10% I don't have what it takes to maximize my results with AAS.
That said... thats just me. I like to stay that low because I can see all my abs and I can see some muscle fibers and striations when I work out. When I see those I get motivated and I hit it even harder!
*Gave you karma for not going crazy on the test first time around!

 

[sledhead09]

I was worried about my BF, I think a 2 week clen cycle should get me below 15% I was at 25% Feb 2nd 2002 so I am on the right track just need to trim it out a little. Thanks for eveyones help. Without this site I would be in Deep !@#$

 

[chefbone]

I admire your reasoning Slatl.

 

[DIVISION]

I was worried about my BF, I think a 2 week clen cycle should get me below 15% I was at 25% Feb 2nd 2002 so I am on the right track just need to trim it out a little. Thanks for eveyones help. Without this site I would be in Deep !@#$

Diet alone could put you around 15%-18%........clen is not a miracle drug, bro.



DIV

 

[sledhead09]

So does my cycle look good except for the BF? Here is the cycle again

weeks 1-8 Papervar 30mg
250 a week of Test enth for 8 weeks
Starting clomid at 3 weeks after last shot of test 200mg first day then 100mg next 10 and 50mg for the last 10 days. I have Nolva on hand just in case.

I agree with apexx as usual. I would get your diet spot on and drop the body fat below 15%. I personally will not touch anything unless I'm below 10%. My rational is that if I can't do what I have to do (diet/workout properly) to stay below 10% I don't have what it takes to maximize my results with AAS.
That said... thats just me. I like to stay that low because I can see all my abs and I can see some muscle fibers and striations when I work out. When I see those I get motivated and I hit it even harder!
*Gave you karma for not going crazy on the test first time around!

 

[DIVISION]

So does my cycle look good except for the BF? Here is the cycle again

weeks 1-8 Papervar 30mg
250 a week of Test enth for 8 weeks
Starting clomid at 3 weeks after last shot of test 200mg first day then 100mg next 10 and 50mg for the last 10 days. I have Nolva on hand just in case.

I do not approve of the papervar......

Tabs or caps.......no paper.




DIV

 

[Neo22]

So does my cycle look good except for the BF? Here is the cycle again

weeks 1-8 Papervar 30mg
250 a week of Test enth for 8 weeks
Starting clomid at 3 weeks after last shot of test 200mg first day then 100mg next 10 and 50mg for the last 10 days. I have Nolva on hand just in case.

Need to run enanthate for at least 10 weeks.

 

[Apexx]

You've echoed this sentiment before.......this 5% is really killing you ApexxNugg.....

If he's going for performance, the 5% can't hurt..........only if he going for aesthetics would it make a difference.





DIV

I had a feeling DIV would be chiming in on that

He mentioned that he was thinking about clen in his original post, so I'm assuming he's doing this for aesthetics, not performance.

As far as the cycle goes, I'd definitely run the test out 10 - 12 weeks.