First Cycle after 4 years off

[farmerjohn]

I want to start my first cycle after 4 years off. A lot of new info out there now. I want to start with 6 weeks on a sus and deca cycle. I used to be up to over 400 bench and over 400 push press with very little AAS. But I'm 36 years old now and I want to use AAS to get back up to my "former" strength as soon as possible. I just started lifting again 4 weeks ago and am making decent progress. But want to kick in with the juice. Any suggestions about sus and deca....or what do you young punks (in-the-know) suggest???
Thanks for all your suggestions. I'm listening. My body fat has gone way up since being off for 4 years........probabley to 20% body fat. I'm really looking to get back in shape. I'm natually pretty strong but need to shed the fat and build some good muscle. Thanks again. -Farmerjohn

 

[Bruce]

i'd drop down to at least 15% bf 12 would be better before touching them. also if you just started lifting again keep on going natural till your gains subside. then if you want run sust and deca but 6 weeks is not enough bro. 10-12 at least.
500mg sust a week
400mg deca a week
both for 12 weeks
pct with hcg and nolva

 

[farmerjohn]

12 weeks??? Oh shit that can get expenisive. Why drop the body fat first? Won't the AAS help shed the fat?

 

[Bruce]

no, aas are not fat burners that depends all on your diet. 10-12 weeks and you have to buy ancillaries or you will lose all your gains and more.

 

[farmerjohn]

ancillaries? Please explain. I have not heard this term before bro. Thanks.

 

[Bruce]

hcg nolvadex things that help you recover during pct. you need to read the pct sticky in the post cycle therapy forum

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

ancillaries? Please explain. I have not heard this term before bro. Thanks.

you'll need to visit ancillary guys, click on my banner below for nolva and clomid for PCT

 

[bilter]

I agree w/ bruce. if you've only been back training for 4 weeks you have a lot of gains you can make w/ proper diet, training and there are some damn good natural supps on the market now. I was out for nearly a year (and off aas for 3) due to a motorcycle crash. Its very tempting to try & short cut back to where I was but a good diet, creatine and protien supps I'm still makin gains. I have my next cylce in hand but I'm waitnig until I need them

 

[ElMatador]

12 weeks??? Oh shit that can get expenisive. Why drop the body fat first? Won't the AAS help shed the fat?

8-10 weeks will be fine....

 

[njmuscleguy]

definitely agree with bruce... he knows his stuff!

 

[trinidad]

Worried about the cost? Why not do this:
1-4 tbol @ 40 mgs. ed
1-10 test @ 500 mgs. wk
12-15 Post cycle therapy w/ nolvadex

Watch your diet and up the cardio

 

[buckjoey]

If you've been off for four years and haven't lifted in while, jumping on a cycle could very well lead to injury. Your connective tissue may not handle the stress well if your weights go up too fast. I understand wanting to get back to were you were as quickly as possible, but you should consider the risks. An injury could set you back even further. Lift hard a while longer (without the gear)!

 

[anal itch]

If you've been off for four years and haven't lifted in while, jumping on a cycle could very well lead to injury. Your connective tissue may not handle the stress well if your weights go up too fast. I understand wanting to get back to were you were as quickly as possible, but you should consider the risks. An injury could set you back even further. Lift hard a while longer (without the gear)!

+1 great post! You need to get your body back into the routine of lifting and cardio first...

I, like your self have recently started a “come back” cycle after a 6 year break. That break was from juice, not working out. I lifted at least 4 days a week the entire time off. Now I’m back up to 5 days a week, but am also on AAS again.