First Cycle advise ?

[rayj]

I am ready to do my first real cycle and I wanted to get some opinions
on my cycle.

I've been on trt for two years so pct is a non issue.I'm 200lbs,around
13% bf and 44 yrs old.Started back lifting 6 yrs ago and been serious
last 3 yrs.

The cycle I'm thinking about is 500mg test cyp wk for 10-12 wks.
I am also thinking of doing 300mg test +200mg deca wk 10-12 wks.
I'll have some ldex on hand if I need it.

Which cycle do you guys think I would gain better on?Also how
should I split the injects?once or twice a wk.

Anyone that is on hrt and cycles?I would like to hear some of your cycles.

 

[sweed]

start off with the test cyp for 500 ew... then u can add other compounds for future cycle... this way u know what side u get from using test... ask carth about his cycles on hrt

 

[riverrock]

Well, I found that spliting the injections is an excelent idea. Test is great and you feel it almost imediately. Then, by around week 3 the gains are there to see. I'd go for Sustanon * 500mg as a good start back. 250mg on Monday 250mg of on Thursday. Even an 8 week cycle like that will give you very good results on your comeback.

 

[rayj]

Well, I found that spliting the injections is an excelent idea. Test is great and you feel it almost imediately. Then, by around week 3 the gains are there to see. I'd go for Sustanon * 500mg as a good start back. 250mg on Monday 250mg of on Thursday. Even an 8 week cycle like that will give you very good results on your comeback.

That would be great if I started seeing results in wk 3.How long till I
would feel an increase in strength?

 

[sweed]

bump this for experienced users...

 

[norfolk]

I would up the Deca dosage to atleast 300mgs & run Clomid at the end.

 

[sweed]

I would up the Deca dosage to atleast 300mgs & run Clomid at the end.

first cycle, i think he should run cyp alone for this one

 

[jeb0177]

first cycle? yes but he's on trt TESTOSTERONE REPLACEMENT THERAPY FOR 4 YEARS. c'mon guy read read.

how much do u usually take for your trt????? I would go like the other bros said 500mg of test and 300-400 of deca, if I was you I would run the liquidex along your cycle that way you prevent the conversion to estrogen, have nolva in hand for just in case gyno symptoms shows up and do your proper pct with clomid and hcg.

good luck.! MY 2 CENTS

 

[genarr3]

I would go with the 200mgs of Deca and 300 of test. So how that works for ya.

 

[rayj]

first cycle? yes but he's on trt TESTOSTERONE REPLACEMENT THERAPY FOR 4 YEARS. c'mon guy read read.

how much do u usually take for your trt????? I would go like the other bros said 500mg of test and 300-400 of deca, if I was you I would run the liquidex along your cycle that way you prevent the conversion to estrogen, have nolva in hand for just in case gyno symptoms shows up and do your proper pct with clomid and hcg.

good luck.! MY 2 CENTS

I'm taking 200mg wk for the trt.I thought I would try and keep the total
AAS 500mg or so for my first cycle to see how I respond.

Will sides increase much going from 200 to 500mg?I have no problems with the 200mg just a little acne.And will I need clomid ? I will be going back to 200mg wk test right after the cycle.

Thanks for your 2 cents

 

[rayj]

I would go with the 200mgs of Deca and 300 of test. So how that works for ya.

How should I do the injects on this?Deca on tues,test on sat.?or both
on the same day?

 

[boston basher]

The deca and tesy seems to be the best stack for you. Yeah split up the injections however you like.

 

[riverrock]

That would be great if I started seeing results in wk 3.How long till I
would feel an increase in strength?

Some people expect to go in Monday and lift moderately, then on Tuesday your as strong as an ox. It doesn't work like that unless your on something like Andriol (don't touch that shit!) You see it increasing constantly and gradually. By the end of your cycle, compare yourself to that start and you'll see how much you have gained (alot)

 

[rayj]

Some people expect to go in Monday and lift moderately, then on Tuesday your as strong as an ox. It doesn't work like that unless your on something like Andriol (don't touch that shit!) You see it increasing constantly and gradually. By the end of your cycle, compare yourself to that start and you'll see how much you have gained (alot)

Gradual strength gain would be good.I'm leaning towards the 500mg test
right now.Though I could prob use the joint lubricating from the deca.

 

[oxymoron]

Gradual strength gain would be good.I'm leaning towards the 500mg test
right now.Though I could prob use the joint lubricating from the deca.

Run the test at 400-500 and a low dose of deca, something like 100mg/wk. If you get any sides, you could be pretty sure it was from the test. Plus, you'll get some oiled joint benefits from the deca.

 

[rayj]

Run the test at 400-500 and a low dose of deca, something like 100mg/wk. If you get any sides, you could be pretty sure it was from the test. Plus, you'll get some oiled joint benefits from the deca.

Could I draw the deca into the same pin with the test in it,mixing
the 2 together?Then take one shot of 200mg test+the 50mg deca
twice a wk.

 

[oxymoron]

It's fine to mix them.

 

[jeb0177]

It's fine to mix them.

yes you can bro.

 

[chyllaxyn]

rayj , , I'm the same age 44 , been in the gym 2-3 times a week for many year and stay pretty active.
I have not had legit HRT but have been considering going that route. What are your thoughts?

 

[rayj]

rayj , , I'm the same age 44 , been in the gym 2-3 times a week for many year and stay pretty active.
I have not had legit HRT but have been considering going that route. What are your thoughts?

I would recommend it if you have low test lvls.I did and trt has made a
big difference for me.It increased my libido alot,and in general I feel better
overall.O yeah and it really helped me at the gym to the point that others
noticed the difference.Although it was a gradual thing.

There are a couple boards that have alot of info on hrt.Do some research
and see what you think.I'll pm you with the board names.