First Clen Post Cycle.. Any advise?

[jajja]

I read the following link and it confused me.. I read that many poeple do a pyramid dosage of Clen, but then i hear they stack it with T3. I have about 11% BF now cuase i bust my ass on Cardio during my bulking cycle but i'd like to lean out the tummy just a lil more. 6'4, 235, 29yr old male.. Do i need to take T3 ?

http://www.elitefitness.com/articledata/clenbuterol.html

Anyone help me out with dosage and when to take it?

Going to do a 10 week cycle of Sus 250 and Decca 200.. I figure i woudl start cutting at week 11-15..

Any love?

 

[asianlover]

what kind of clen are you taking. i do pyramid mine and have gotten good results. i could give you my doses but it would only help you if you are using ag guys liquid clen because it is much stonger than other clens. if you havent bought it yet i would recomend getting that one.

 

[swordfish151]

I read the following link and it confused me.. I read that many poeple do a pyramid dosage of Clen, but then i hear they stack it with T3. I have about 11% BF now cuase i bust my ass on Cardio during my bulking cycle but i'd like to lean out the tummy just a lil more. 6'4, 235, 29yr old male.. Do i need to take T3 ?

http://www.elitefitness.com/articledata/clenbuterol.html

Anyone help me out with dosage and when to take it?

Going to do a 10 week cycle of Sus 250 and Decca 200.. I figure i woudl start cutting at week 11-15..

Any love?

You dont HAVE to take it..im not..im on liquiclen right now..with no t3...you can take it and burn alot more fat with t3 but personally i did the clen/t3 before...so..im just sticking with clen

Example of a first cycle:

Day1: 20mcg
Day2: 40mcg
Day3: 60mcg
Day4: 80mcg
Day5: 80mcg(Note: Increase the dose only when the side effects are tolerable)
Day6-Day12: 100mcg
Day13: 80 mcg (Tapering is not necessary, but it helps some users get back to
normal gradually)
Day14: 60 mcgs
Day15: off
Day16: off
Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack

Example of a second cycle:

Day1: 60mcg
Day2: 80mcg
Day3: 80mcg
Day4: 100mcg
Day5: 100mcg
Day6-Day12: 120mcg
Day13: 100 mcg
Day14: 80 mcgs
Day15: off
Day16: off
Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack

What else do I need to know?

Taurine MUST be used with Clen at 3-5g daily. Clenbuterol depletes taurine
levels in the liver which stops the conversion of T4 to T3 in the liver.
Taurine allows the user to avoid the dreaded rebound effect and painful muscle
cramps. It's a must with Clen.

Clenbuterol should not be taken too close to a workout. It can interfere with
your breathing and complete ruin your workout. When doing cardio, it's
advisable to stay at a consistent pace and avoid HIIT style routines.

Do not take Clen Past 4pm and drink plenty of water; 1.5-2 gallons a day.

 

[jajja]

You dont HAVE to take it..im not..im on liquiclen right now..with no t3...you can take it and burn alot more fat with t3 but personally i did the clen/t3 before...so..im just sticking with clen

Example of a first cycle:

Day1: 20mcg
Day2: 40mcg
Day3: 60mcg
Day4: 80mcg
Day5: 80mcg(Note: Increase the dose only when the side effects are tolerable)
Day6-Day12: 100mcg
Day13: 80 mcg (Tapering is not necessary, but it helps some users get back to
normal gradually)
Day14: 60 mcgs
Day15: off
Day16: off
Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack

Example of a second cycle:

Day1: 60mcg
Day2: 80mcg
Day3: 80mcg
Day4: 100mcg
Day5: 100mcg
Day6-Day12: 120mcg
Day13: 100 mcg
Day14: 80 mcgs
Day15: off
Day16: off
Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack

What else do I need to know?

Taurine MUST be used with Clen at 3-5g daily. Clenbuterol depletes taurine
levels in the liver which stops the conversion of T4 to T3 in the liver.
Taurine allows the user to avoid the dreaded rebound effect and painful muscle
cramps. It's a must with Clen.

Clenbuterol should not be taken too close to a workout. It can interfere with
your breathing and complete ruin your workout. When doing cardio, it's
advisable to stay at a consistent pace and avoid HIIT style routines.

Do not take Clen Past 4pm and drink plenty of water; 1.5-2 gallons a day.

Sword,

did you look at the link above in my post? They say to do the following..

Effective Dose: Clenbuterol is used at 60-120 mcgs per day, divided throughout the day. 2 days on, 2 days off / 2 weeks on 3 weeks off.

Cycles Cycles usually last 6-12 weeks. After 2 weeks, the Beta-2 receptors down regulate and impairment of T4 to T3 conversion is impaired. Research shows that using it for two days on then two days off prevents attenuation. Apparently, clen has a half-life in the body of 48 hours making it pretty much irrelevant when you take it. This means that two days on, two days off, conserves the number of pills you use in a cycle rather than for receptor downgrade which occurs around two weeks. The three weeks off between cycles counterbalances the receptor downgrade; the two days on, two days off reduces the side effects since on the third day of two-on two-off the concentration is highest.

Doing so prevents the above breakdown.. This true?

 

[jajja]

what kind of clen are you taking. i do pyramid mine and have gotten good results. i could give you my doses but it would only help you if you are using ag guys liquid clen because it is much stonger than other clens. if you havent bought it yet i would recomend getting that one.

I planned on taking the following:

clenbuterol 20mcg tabs, 100 tabs per bottle (nihfi,bulgaria)

So should i go liquid ? Same money?

 

[buffalo]

I planned on taking the following:

clenbuterol 20mcg tabs, 100 tabs per bottle (nihfi,bulgaria)

So should i go liquid ? Same money?

I have used the liquid and the tabs and i don't see any difference in the results. Start at 20mcg a day and increase until the sides are to much. Personaly i go up to 200mcg a day but i tolerate stimulants very well. Do the 2 weeks on 2 weeks off until you have done the clen for 6 weeks. Use a fat burner like trex on the off weeks. And make sure to drink 1-2 gallons of water a day along with 3-5 grams of taurine a day. I just put the taurine in my water bottle when i wake up.

 

[swordfish151]

Sword,

did you look at the link above in my post? They say to do the following..

Effective Dose: Clenbuterol is used at 60-120 mcgs per day, divided throughout the day. 2 days on, 2 days off / 2 weeks on 3 weeks off.

Cycles Cycles usually last 6-12 weeks. After 2 weeks, the Beta-2 receptors down regulate and impairment of T4 to T3 conversion is impaired. Research shows that using it for two days on then two days off prevents attenuation. Apparently, clen has a half-life in the body of 48 hours making it pretty much irrelevant when you take it. This means that two days on, two days off, conserves the number of pills you use in a cycle rather than for receptor downgrade which occurs around two weeks. The three weeks off between cycles counterbalances the receptor downgrade; the two days on, two days off reduces the side effects since on the third day of two-on two-off the concentration is highest.

Doing so prevents the above breakdown.. This true?

Thats the old school way of doing it bro.....back in the day day lol..2 wks on and off is optimal..shoot some guys dont even do that..they just run it through..but nowadays 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off is your best bet

 

[jajja]

I have used the liquid and the tabs and i don't see any difference in the results. Start at 20mcg a day and increase until the sides are to much. Personaly i go up to 200mcg a day but i tolerate stimulants very well. Do the 2 weeks on 2 weeks off until you have done the clen for 6 weeks. Use a fat burner like trex on the off weeks. And make sure to drink 1-2 gallons of water a day along with 3-5 grams of taurine a day. I just put the taurine in my water bottle when i wake up.

http://www.gnc.com/productDetails.aspx?id=45711&lang=en

so this mean 6-10 pills a day of this stuff? or get the liquid , do they make that?

 

[buffalo]

Yes that would be correct. 6 pills would =3grams. Personally i would just order mine from the af store. It comes in a powder and i just put it in my water bottle when i wake up. www.anabolicfitness.net You should check them out. I try to cut down on pills whenever i can.

 

[jdvert]

jajja,

I just finished my first clen cycle without t3.I weighed 206 at about11%-12%bdyfat.My weight dint drop but I could visualy see more defintion.I like ag liquid clen.Stronger than the pills I took back in 2000 when I used clen last.

 

[asianlover]

I planned on taking the following:

clenbuterol 20mcg tabs, 100 tabs per bottle (nihfi,bulgaria)

So should i go liquid ? Same money?

http://www.ag-guys.com/clenbuterol-clen-liquiclen-liquidclen.html

You can calculate it out and see wich is cheeper for you, but im on my 2nd run and barly made a dent in the bottle. It has worked very well for me. If you do get the liquid you need to get a pin for measuring. I pulled the neddle out of a 1cc pin and use that for measuring. Its 200mcg/cc so you need somthing alot more accurate that a dropper. And do 2wks on/ 2wks off. not 2 days. the use a ec, or t-rex or somthing similar. i have never used t3 and doubt i ever will, I dont want to risk fuckin up my thyroid when other option work good for me.

 

[jajja]

http://www.ag-guys.com/clenbuterol-clen-liquiclen-liquidclen.html

You can calculate it out and see wich is cheeper for you, but im on my 2nd run and barly made a dent in the bottle. It has worked very well for me. If you do get the liquid you need to get a pin for measuring. I pulled the neddle out of a 1cc pin and use that for measuring. Its 200mcg/cc so you need somthing alot more accurate that a dropper. And do 2wks on/ 2wks off. not 2 days. the use a ec, or t-rex or somthing similar. i have never used t3 and doubt i ever will, I dont want to risk fuckin up my thyroid when other option work good for me.

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what does this mean? "the use a ec, or t-rex or somthing similar."

should i use something while on the 2 week on/ 2 week off cycle for preventative?

 

[buffalo]

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what does this mean? "the use a ec, or t-rex or somthing similar."

should i use something while on the 2 week on/ 2 week off cycle for preventative?

It means after you do your first week of clen you take a 2 week break,while on that 2 week break you should take either a eca stack or i prefer trex which is a thermo type fat burner that you get from the af store. It's just to keep your body in the fat burning mode.

 

[asianlover]

yup, thats it. 2wks ON clen, then 2wks on another fat burner. then start again.