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First 1U rack mount server arrived

jnuts

jnuts

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Everybody needs a few in their house.

1st of three have arrived and this one gets win2k, the other linux.
 
Cheap, cheap... off of ebay.

anywhere from $120 - $170/per (including shipping!) for dual cpu (450-500 mhz) with 256 - 1 gig of memory on board.... and a bunch of SCSI drives.

I needed two machines that would sit in the DMZ at the house. One running win2k that could serve up ASP pages with SQL Server on the backend. (Little bit o' work on the side for $$)

Another running Linux that will server up similar stuff with PHP and My SQL... along with probably hosting my domain via a dynamic dns. I'm fricken sick of spam, so I'll host my own damn email.

Third one will be inside the DMZ. Mass file storage for the house. Lot's of digital movies for the kids. Need more storage...always.
 
jnuts said:
anywhere from $120 - $170/per (including shipping!) for dual cpu (450-500 mhz) with 256 - 1 gig of memory on board
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holy shit!

PII or PIII?

I assume from some company going under?

That is awesome. Prices here are nowhere near like that and ebay is out of the question due to shipping.

One of the new things I miss about the states.
 
jnuts said:
Cheap, cheap... off of ebay.

anywhere from $120 - $170/per (including shipping!) for dual cpu (450-500 mhz) with 256 - 1 gig of memory on board.... and a bunch of SCSI drives.

I needed two machines that would sit in the DMZ at the house. One running win2k that could serve up ASP pages with SQL Server on the backend. (Little bit o' work on the side for $$)

Another running Linux that will server up similar stuff with PHP and My SQL... along with probably hosting my domain via a dynamic dns. I'm fricken sick of spam, so I'll host my own damn email.

Third one will be inside the DMZ. Mass file storage for the house. Lot's of digital movies for the kids. Need more storage...always.
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No shit?!?

Damn, I gotta get on ebay...
 
TheProject said:


No shit?!?

Damn, I gotta get on ebay...
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Lot's of expensive stuff on there. These seemed to be pretty damn good deals - first one seems to be running fine right now. Win2k in it's unpatched and virgin innocence is up and running now. I'm half tempted to throw outside the firewall to see how long it would take for it to be raped by some clown in Korea or Tawain. Those two countries have been banging against the firewall today.
 
jnuts said:
HFNetCHkPro.... the savior for patching a win2k box
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I just started using this in the office last week - great stuff.

too bad my company is too cheap to pay for the minumum 25 licenses - but I guess 10 machines and 1 server less of me walking around too is better than nothing.
 
Hey jnuts...wasn't it you that had the setup for VNC'ing into your home system?

I'd like to know how you did that, if you get the time to write it up.
 
TheProject said:
Hey jnuts...wasn't it you that had the setup for VNC'ing into your home system?

I'd like to know how you did that, if you get the time to write it up.
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Ya, that was me.

I setup ssh on my win2k box using the Cygwin stuff.

Then setup a tunnel to VNC. I moved it from the normal port 22 to 222... then opened up a hole in my old router.

There are a couple of cheat sheets out there, I'll have to see if I can find mine in this rats nest of an office

It was a bit of a bitch to install, but it worked just fine. I used TightVNC and it worked pretty good over DSL.
 
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I wish you were my daddy.

Actually I just wish I had the time to learn all that shit. I would make so much cool assed crap.
 
slickdadd said:
I wish you were my daddy.

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My son is gonna be digging me. I just bought him a Anakin Skywalker helmet off of ebay. We play that Star Wars pod racing game on the computer. Only problem is that he likes crashing into the walls all the time. Never let a 3 year old drive, word to the wise.
 
jnuts said:

Then setup a tunnel to VNC. I moved it from the normal port 22 to 222... then opened up a hole in my old router.
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If you are on two Windows machines (esp if they are XP or 2K), then why not use RDC to go into it over a secure line into terminal services?

that is more to Project than you. I think what he essentially wants is a way to browse elite without his work knowing via watching the line.
 
NoDaddyNo said:


that is more to Project than you. I think what he essentially wants is a way to browse elite without his work knowing via watching the line.
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Yep, that be my reason. Though I do have ssh turned off right now as I just installed IPCop on a machine for a firewall. I like that little piece 'o software.
 
TheProject said:


Now we'll see if all this desktop support hasn't dumbed me down too much to do this...
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VNC and Putty will easily fit on a USB keychain drive. Lot's of people don't lock the removable hard drive stuff down...(on windows machines that is)
 
NoDaddyNo said:


If you are on two Windows machines (esp if they are XP or 2K), then why not use RDC to go into it over a secure line into terminal services?

that is more to Project than you. I think what he essentially wants is a way to browse elite without his work knowing via watching the line.
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A ha...you're a clever, clever man.

I've already got a system at home running 2K server...I could add Terminal Services to it, and get me what I need, which is Elite and Messenger apps...

:D

Now we'll see if all this desktop support hasn't dumbed me down too much to do this...
 
I've been really impressed with the MS RDC client - I thought for sure it would be too slow, but it is incredibly fast, even over shitty connections. Over a T1 it must be fantastic.

I only use it inside our LAN at work to work on the servers, but we have a client in Ireland that we deal with via that and it has been great (we are on a 128K frame relay line... ugh)
 
TheProject said:


Yep...our firewall blocks all the ports for those too.

I just fired up my server, and added Term Services...going to have to mess with it more tomorrow.

I think the tricky part could be getting the right ports open on my home firewall. The interface for it is less than intuitive...
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What kind of firewall is it? Obviously need port 80 to point at that machine, and probably 443. There is a port 3000 something, but I don't remember what it is (want to say 3369 but I'd have to look that up).
 
NoDaddyNo said:


What kind of firewall is it? Obviously need port 80 to point at that machine, and probably 443. There is a port 3000 something, but I don't remember what it is (want to say 3369 but I'd have to look that up).
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I'm using a Linksys 5260. I have yet to find a good guide for administering the stupid thing.

Am I going to have to figure out some way to route the traffic through the firewall, since it's doing some NAT translation for me?
 
TheProject said:


I'm using a Linksys 5260. I have yet to find a good guide for administering the stupid thing.

Am I going to have to figure out some way to route the traffic through the firewall, since it's doing some NAT translation for me?
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I'm not familiar with a "Linksys 5260". Either you have the wrong brand, or that is a very old Linksys since they name their stuff differently these days as far as I know.

Are you sure the 5260 isn't the Speedstream 5260 (which is a cable modem)?

Usually Linksys has a web administration front end that you access via 192.168.0.0 or 192.168.0.1 - I think just admin/admin is the default passwords on it. If you have changed the password, then it is likely "dfelprdrlz".

In there you want to get to the port forwarding section, which is likely in the Advanced tab.
 
NoDaddyNo said:


I'm not familiar with a "Linksys 5260". Either you have the wrong brand, or that is a very old Linksys since they name their stuff differently these days as far as I know.

Are you sure the 5260 isn't the Speedstream 5260 (which is a cable modem)?

Usually Linksys has a web administration front end that you access via 192.168.0.0 or 192.168.0.1 - I think just admin/admin is the default passwords on it. If you have changed the password, then it is likely "dfelprdrlz".

In there you want to get to the port forwarding section, which is likely in the Advanced tab.
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Yeah, it's a Speedstream 5260. I'm half retarded this morning.

There is a web interface for the router...I've dinked with it before, and found it to be annoying, but that's probably just because I'm not good at it yet.

Port forwarding...got it.

Oh, and broadband/dslreports is where I got the hack to turn the 5220 into a 5260. I guess when I said "I have yet to find" I should've said "I've been too lazy to dig through their forums".
 
TheProject said:


Yeah, it's a Speedstream 5260. I'm half retarded this morning.

There is a web interface for the router...I've dinked with it before, and found it to be annoying, but that's probably just because I'm not good at it yet.

Port forwarding...got it.

Oh, and broadband/dslreports is where I got the hack to turn the 5220 into a 5260. I guess when I said "I have yet to find" I should've said "I've been too lazy to dig through their forums".
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You likely have a dynamic IP allocation from your cable provider, so you will probably want to get something that will broadcast that for you - either a script that uploads it to a webpage that you can check, or e-mails you.

As for Linksys, it should be easy to administer and they have documentation on their website for all of their stuff (I think in PDF, but maybe HTML - MAYBE even both, not sure).

I never really bothered with it at home, but we have to do that stuff here so that we can let people through to the webmail stuff.
If I had to guess, I would say that we are likely not as protected as we could be since this is all MS stuff.
 
NoDaddyNo said:


You likely have a dynamic IP allocation from your cable provider, so you will probably want to get something that will broadcast that for you - either a script that uploads it to a webpage that you can check, or e-mails you.

As for Linksys, it should be easy to administer and they have documentation on their website for all of their stuff (I think in PDF, but maybe HTML - MAYBE even both, not sure).

I never really bothered with it at home, but we have to do that stuff here so that we can let people through to the webmail stuff.
If I had to guess, I would say that we are likely not as protected as we could be since this is all MS stuff.
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Yep...it's dynamic IP. As long as I get my IP before I leave the house, it'd be no big deal. I could figure out a way to e-mail it or something, but I'm not sure it's worth the trouble.

You're right about Linksys...unfortunately, the Speedstream is made by Efficient Networks, whose support is not nearly as good.

I'm sure someone on dslreports has the same router, and has found the docs for it.
 
TheProject said:


Yep...it's dynamic IP. As long as I get my IP before I leave the house, it'd be no big deal. I could figure out a way to e-mail it or something, but I'm not sure it's worth the trouble.

You're right about Linksys...unfortunately, the Speedstream is made by Efficient Networks, whose support is not nearly as good.

I'm sure someone on dslreports has the same router, and has found the docs for it.
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Goto dyndns.org - they have a free service to dynamically update an IP address with DNS resolution for you. It's a free service and it also has some IP updating tools for you.
 
jnuts said:


Goto dyndns.org - they have a free service to dynamically update an IP address with DNS resolution for you. It's a free service and it also has some IP updating tools for you.
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Hot damn.

Who needs a tech board when I've got you guys?
 
I have three mini NLX boxes and a Shuttle for server duties at home. Nothing beats running your own mail server with SpamAssassin & automatic AV protection.
 
Code said:
1U's rock.

Do you have a 1U monitor/keyboard drawer?
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My rackmount solution is to put them under the desk. I'm just using tight-vnc to admin them.

I'm probably gonna start popping circuit breakers with all the hardware I have in my home office
 
DO NOT use easydns for dynip service. I set my gf up with them and she ended up getting (I promise you) 50 spams every single day thru easydns.com mailservers. I had to setup some Postfix header checks to kill that noise.
 
Dial_tone said:
DO NOT use easydns for dynip service. I set my gf up with them and she ended up getting (I promise you) 50 spams every single day thru easydns.com mailservers. I had to setup some Postfix header checks to kill that noise.
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I was looking at using dyndns.org - heard anything about them?
 
jnuts said:


I was looking at using dyndns.org - heard anything about them?
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I've not heard anything in a while, which is probably good. A few friends use them. I used TZO.com but it's a pay service. Overpriced but I just wanted something that worked w/easy configuration.
 
jnuts said:
BTW, the 2U rack mount showed up today.... the thing is a monster.
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8 x SCSI drives in that thing. Fricken loud. It's going out in the garage..... one long cat5 run for the hookup.
 
I have no need for SCSI at home - too much work for no return. I admire your setup - sounds killer! I wish I could get shit like that here.
 
NoDaddyNo said:
I have no need for SCSI at home
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True that, but at those rock bottom prices, I'll take 'em as they come. There is no way the wife would let that thing sit in my office. When those drives spin up, they are mighty loud.

...Just came across some some dirt cheap prices on 47gb SCSI drives. Monster size full or double height things that were originally used in large raid installations. If memory serves, they were $60 for 3 of them. They'd fit just nicely in a 2U case.
 
jnuts said:


True that, but at those rock bottom prices, I'll take 'em as they come. There is no way the wife would let that thing sit in my office. When those drives spin up, they are mighty loud.

...Just came across some some dirt cheap prices on 47gb SCSI drives. Monster size full or double height things that were originally used in large raid installations. If memory serves, they were $60 for 3 of them. They'd fit just nicely in a 2U case.
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Wow...post a link.

10K RPM?

I wouldn't mind having those for video work...
 
I read this whole thread and still don't know how to get around registering XP Pro. Any ideas?
 
Other than video, what are some things that need access rates over 5400? Granted, I know that 7K is nice and anything above that is pretty much required by video editing - but what else needs that access rate?

I'm just curious. The "new" (feels new to me) EIDE seems to have a pretty good wide pipe if I recall correctly - but for the stuff I do, I never really need anything all that fast anyway - the bulk of my processing is done in RAM and then it just needs to dump out to disk after it is all done, so the read/write rate is not the sticking point for me.
 
AAP said:
I read this whole thread and still don't know how to get around registering XP Pro. Any ideas?
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You need the activation hack, not the registration hack.

I don't have it, and I'd be leery of anything executable off of Kazaa... That place is riddled with virii.
 
All she needs is one set for her massage business. I didn't know selling rocks would be such a lucrative business.

Bricks are cheaper, but harsher on the skin... or so I'm told.
 
NoDaddyNo said:
Other than video, what are some things that need access rates over 5400? Granted, I know that 7K is nice and anything above that is pretty much required by video editing - but what else needs that access rate?

I'm just curious. The "new" (feels new to me) EIDE seems to have a pretty good wide pipe if I recall correctly - but for the stuff I do, I never really need anything all that fast anyway - the bulk of my processing is done in RAM and then it just needs to dump out to disk after it is all done, so the read/write rate is not the sticking point for me.
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See, I just like messing with different hardware, and I get impatient waiting for video to render, so anything that will speed that process up, I'll try. Well, if I can afford it.

I've been thinking about trying an SATA drive, just because...
 
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