Finishing Cycle?

[shamrock11]

Ok Bros. I'm finishing my first cycle this sunday and I am just wanting to make sure I have everything in check for pct. I am on a cycle of deca only at 400mg/week. When sould I start PCT? I know the half life of deca is like 15 days so should I start it in ten days or should I wait a little longer? I have nolva and clomid on hand for PCT. I'm going to run the nolva at 40mg the first week and 20mg the next two. The clomid I'm going to do 300 days one 200 day two, 110 for ten days and 50 for ten days. Should I split up the doses on the first couple of weeks? As far as diet and training how should I change them after the cycle. My diet is roughly 4000 cals. at 20% fat, 40% carbs and 40% protein. My training split is like this

Monday: Chest Tuesday: Back WED: off, Thur: Shoulders Fri: Arms Sat: Legs and Sun: Off.

I have been doing 3 to 4 sets with reps of 6 with as heavy weight as I can use. So how should I adjust these now that I'm off cycle? I appericate any and all help and karma to all those that help. I'll be posting pics and stats from this cycle in a couple of weeks. Thanks guys for all your help.

 

[shamrock11]

come on fellas give a bro some help

 

[ruggermu]

That very similar to the cycle I ran. Pct is about same as well. Keep eating big, I was a little worried at first about eating so much when I came off, but I'm glad I did. Kept the weight on that way. Good luck Bro

 

[bas4lizzife]

come on fellas give a bro some help

Begin 18-21 days after last injection

 

[ruggermu]

Yeah forgot that part I started about 2 and half weeks after last shot.

 

[shamrock11]

Thanks fellas karma your way. What about the workout how should it be adjusted?

 

[shamrock11]

more help would be appericated

 

[bas4lizzife]

most will tell you that during PCT you should keep intensity up but it may be wise to decrease volume and/or intensity. I was doing an upper/lower 2x per week split on m,t,th,f while on and now in my first few weeks of PCT have dropped down to only 3 days a week but have kept my workouts the same, besides trying to avoid failure to keep my CNS a bit fresher

 

[ruggermu]

I didn't really change anything I kept feeling fresh, go with how you feel. Your body knows when it's ready

 

[shamrock11]

Thanks again

 

[showtime2004]

I wouldn't wait 2 weeks to begin pct. I'd personally wait 7-10 days then start it. Obviously pct is personal preference but I'd run it like this:

Week 1 - clomid 300mg/day one then 100mg/day days 2-7
Week 1 - nolva 40mg/day

Week 2+3 - clomid 50mg/day nolva 20mg/day

If you have hcg, I'd run that 1000mcg m/w/f for all 3 weeks

 

[sweed]

Straight from Jenetics sticky:
"On average, begin PCT approximately 5-10 days after your last injection regardless of longer acting esters. Begin PCT 1-3 days after your last injection and/or intake when using short acting esters.

Keep in mind, pituitary LH secretion automatically increases as the hormones diminish from your system. The elevated androgen levels are from an exogenous source and your endogenous production is suppressed. Therefore, waiting for the exogenous androgens to completely clear from your system, ultimately results in lower total concentrations of androgens in your system when beginning PCT. This leads to an unfavorable andgrogen:estrogen ratio and the well known “crash” effect."

so 7-10 day after last injection.. im going to start mine a week after my last injection with my cycle.
Training: keep intensity up and volume down
diet; keep cals high for first few weeks then slowly drop to where its high enough to keep gain, but low enough to not gain excess fat.

 

[shamrock11]

thanks Sweed that is exactly what I was thinking about doing for pct. I was going to start a week after my last shot.