krishna said:
None of your studies are based on steroid use.....NONE OF THEM! It's fine to give advice, but your giving orders, and claiming what you know to be absolute. When someone says something contradictory, you tell people not to listen to them or all their hair will fall out. That'd be fine if it was someone who didn't know what they were talking about, but I do and it makes you mad because some of it goes against what you pretend to know.
look like you are getting mad mate lets analyse what i said:
i meant...if a person used finasteride before becasue prone to hairloss and stop to use it to take deca he will lose his hair plus when he starts finasteride again the drug will be less efficient
1) if u stop to use finasteride and start again the drug becomes less potent
from one of the best dermatologist in the US and expert of the website hairloss help Dr. Bernstein
http://www.bernsteinmedical.com/open-house5.php
Attendee: I know Propecia is good in keeping hair, but once you start it how do you know if it is working?
Dr. Bernstein: That’s a great question! There is a dilemma in going on Propecia, because once you go on Finasteride, there is no way to judge if it’s working unless you stop using it. And if you stop the medication, you’ll lose the hair that you gained or at least the hair that you held onto with the medication. If you stop the medication and lose this hair, when you restart Propecia the hair will usually not return to the level of fullness you had before you stopped. You will be at a new, lower baseline.
So you really don’t want to stop the medication once you start. What you have to do is make sure you have a doctor make a correct diagnosis of androgenetic hair loss and then just continue to take it – as long as you want to have its benefits.
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if a person used finasteride before, becasue prone to hairloss, and stop it to take deca he will lose his hair
ok this for 2 reasons
first deca even if is a mild steroid its mildness apply to people that do not have alopecia androgenetic. If a person prone to hairloss get deca without protection will lose his hair
from the steroid profile in stereoidology forum
Deca
Active Life: 14-16 days
Drug Class: Anabolic/Androgenic Steroid (injectable)
Average Dose: Men 300-800 mg/week.....Women 50-100 mg/week
Acne: Yes, in higher dosages or sensitive individuals
Water Retention: Yes, but less than testosterone
High Blood Pressure: Dose depandant
Liver Toxic: No
Aromatization: Low, converts to less active norestrogens
DHT Conversion: No, converts to
NOR-DHT with low activity
Decrease HPTA function: Yes, extreme
Other Info: Highly anabolic/
moderate androgenic effects
if you read deca convert on nor-DHT and still is a moderate androgenic. So while for aperson without hereditary hairloss is good news for a person that fight to keep the hair even without steroid still can harm the scalp!!!
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2) if a person who take finasteride stops , will lose all the hair that has gained
from propecia website and you will find this in any studies and backed by any dermatologist in any part of the world obviously not krishna world
PROPECIA can only work over the long term if you continue taking it. If you stop taking PROPECIA, you will likely lose any hair you have gained within 12 months of stopping treatment.
http://www.propecia.com/finasteride/propecia/consumer/index.jsp
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now last but not least the myth deca + finasteride = more hairloss
in one of my other threads i published an email from a well known dermatologist (american) who also had experience in curing alopecia among bodybuilders. And in this sense although i have to agree there are not studies on this however i believe more to an important dermatologist frankly than you. I will test this myth by myself in july anyway
Hi Dr. X
i started to take care of my hair when i was 20 (now i am 37) and i was diagnosed with alopecia androgenetic by a well known xxxx dematologist. since then i manage with best doctors and products to maintain all my hair.
Now, i decided to do a cycle of Deca durabolin (nandrolone-NPP)at 200/300 mg per week for 8-9 weeks. I stress that here in the UK the personal use of steroids is perfectly legal.
Your genetic disposition is the most important factor in MPB, and Deca durabolin (nandrolone) can exacerbate it if you have a genetic predisposition for MPB.
I have read that the use of finasteride (which i do) and nandrolone would cause hairloss; so i would like to know , if possible,
do you think is a myth in your experience the negative interaction of nandrolone/finasteride ?
It is a myth. If you are going to be taking steroids, there will be an increase in the serum level of testosterone. However, you will be relieved to know that the increased testosterone does not necessarily exacerbate MPB in all patients.
It would be wise to decrease the DHT and that would be fairly simple. I think that the best single product for preventing and reversing MPB is 5% minoxidil / 5% azelaic acid promotes hair growth and prevents the synthesis of DHT in the scalp. The alternative is for you to take finasteride (Propecia or quartered tablets of Proscar). I would still suggest using 5% minoxidil with finasteride because the effects of the two medications are additive and complementary. Perhaps, the most effective medication to decrease both the amount and the effect of DHT in the scalp would be topical spironolactone. There are three distinct benefits of topical spironolactone in the treatment of MPB. (1). Spironolactone significantly reduces the amount of DHT in the scalp by inhibiting the conversion of precursor steroids to DHT. (2). Spironolactone reduces the DHT in the scalp by converting localized testosterone into estrogen, which is thought to be protective of the hair follicles. (3). Spironolactone blocks the follicular androgen receptor sites, thereby rendering any residual or circulating DHT harmless to the hair follicles. Rather than reducing the levels of circulating (serum) DHT like finasteride does, it prevents DHT from making a complex with the androgen receptor protein.
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so the effect of stopping finasteride + the effect of a mild steroid but still steroid on the head of a person prone to hairloss will be a fucking DISASTER now please piss off Ileave clever people to judge...
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