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Finaplix problems

lionheart69

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Hey guys!!!
I got my finaplex and tried to use acetone, but I'm not sure if it worked right. I mixed it in with the acetone and once it was mixed I let it sit for at least 20min. At the bottom there was a white layer wich is suppose to be the binders. I sucked out all the yellow liquid then pushed it through syringe filters then dried it. The pellets weight before I dissolved them was 3gr. After I dried the acetone it weighed 3gr, even though the white stuff was left behind. Could the white stuff be the tren or is the yellow crystal powder the tren. I thought if there was 100 pellets @ 20mg of tren each I would be left with 2000mg of powder, instead of 3000mg of powder. I dissolved the tren in 200ml of acetone maybe thats why I have such a big head ache today, I should get a breathing mask of some sort.:confused:
 
Maybe its just me, but I would not bother converting without a tried and true kit. Everyone has idea on how to get around it but I always hear of problems. For the price, its just not worth the hassle of NOT getting a kit.... to me anyways.
 
Finaplix

:confused:
My one problem with that is I need to make more than normal, with kits they would be very time consuming and the cost would be crazy.
 
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Buy the 8g0 kits!!! Use his it takes all the guess work out.

PS don't post that your converting that much, just say you need to convert alot. Delete the amount, and leave it at that, unless you want the wrong kind of attention!!!!!
 
Re: Finaplix

lionheart69 said:
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My one problem with that is I need to make at least 20-30 20ml bottles a month, I can't buy 30 kits at a time and do them each individually it would take for ever, the cost would be crazy and very time consuming.


Do your yourself and your cattle a favor and either buy the appropriate, proven,safe conversion kits or at least take a U level course in organic chem and biochem- then test out your 1st few batchs on yourself 1st. Your post is a recipe for disaster - someone will get hurt.


Just something to think about

Hard
 
Well, "A" I am sure can work with you on that issue if ya gave him a shout. He does have an 8gf kit which makes 100ml final solution, but I suppose I could still see where that may be a problem. Ya never know until you ask, but perhaps he will sell you a big ol jug of his magic solution and you can source the vials and what not from him or elsewhere.
 
"A"'s kits

Zyglamail, Could you email me with's A's email address I will ask him. How long does he usually take to reply.
thanks
 
Lion, check yer mail bro.
 
With the ever-decreasing availability of real anabolic steroids, many athletes are turning to more exotic and esoteric means of obtaining the drugs they need to compete in their chosen sport. For some, this has meant turning to the use of cattle implants. This article will fully explore the use of cattle implants for performance enhancement by examining the various implants, methods of application, and steps for breaking these implants down into injectable substances. There are two basic methods of application athletes use to utilize the hormones found in these implants. The first method involves the use of dimethyl sulfoxide or DMSO. DMSO is a natural solvent derived from wood pulp. It acts as a transdermal carrier, and when mixed with the ground up pellets of these implants, will actually carry the hormones through the skin and into the bloodstream. However, this method has several drawbacks. Toxicity becomes an issue as DMSO will carry any substance below a given molecular weight through the skin and into the blood. This can include some of the binders and glues found in the implant. Additionally, DMSO can be very irritating to the skin and causes the individual using it to release a very strong odor from both their breath and skin. DMSO can be found on the Internet at www.dmso.com or www.dmso.net. Although DMSO should not be used on humans, anyone planning on doing so must not use the industrial grade! Be sure any DMSO you buy is of 99.9% purity.

Athletes choosing the DMSO route of administration will usually apply it on a daily basis due to its rapid clearance from the body when applied via this method. Dosages vary, although 60 mg per day seems to be very effective for most.

Athletes planning to use cattle implants via the DMSA method should be aware of the following:

1.The pellets must be very finely ground for this method to work effectively. Don't simply crush a few pellets with a spoon and think the DMSO will magically leech the hormones out from the large particulates.

2.The DMSO should be mixed with water at a 1/1 ratio. For those of you that aren't mathematically inclined, this would give us a solution of 50% DMSO and 50% water. Be sure to use 99.9% pure DMSO!

3.Use as little of the DMSO/water mixture as possible to apply the finely ground up powder. Using more than is necessary will not make the absorption of hormone more efficient and creates a huge mess.

4.Remember that DMSO is a transdermal agent and will carry most substances directly into your blood! This requires that the area of skin used for application is thoroughly cleaned before applying the DMSO/water/hormone mixture. The area should be washed with a non-perfumed soap and then washed again under hot water to completely remove any residue from the soap.

5.After applying the mixture to the skin, it's important to let it dry completely before putting any garment on top of the area of application. Remember, not only is DMSO a transdermal carrier, but it also acts as a solvent. Any substance with a small enough molecular weight will be carried into your body by the DMSO which can include substances on and in your clothes like detergents and dyes. Some athletes will apply plastic wrap around the area of application to ensure that no foreign matter is carried into the body.

The second method of administering these hormones requires that the implants are broken down into an injectable substance. Out of desperation, some athletes simply crush the pellets and mix them with whatever sterile oil or water they have handy. While this certainly will get the desired hormone into the body, it's very risky as the resulting compound is not sterile and contains all of the binders and glues found in each pellet.

Many athletes utilize a slightly more complex method of formulating an injectable that solves the problems created by simply mixing the crushed pellets in the method described above. By mixing the crushed pellets with propylene glycol, benzyl alcohol, and polyethylene glycol, it's possible to create a much more effective injectable that is resistant to microbial contamination.

The following materials are required to complete this experiment:

-trenbolone acetate
-propylene glycol
-benzyl alcohol
-polyethylene glycol
-syringe filters

The polyethylene glycol (PEG), propylene glycol (PPG), and benzyl alcohol (BA) should comprise 60, 30, and 10% of the final mixture respectively. Therefore, if it was your intention of producing 100 ml of injectable, you would need 60 ml of PEG, 30 ml of PPG, and 10 ml of BA. For 50 ml, you would use 30, 15, and 5. The final concentration of trenbolone in your injectable is determined by how dividing the total mg of amount of trenbolone by the total ml volume of the solution. For example, if you desired to make 50 ml of injectable with a final concentration of 50mg/ml, you would need to start with 2500 mg of the steroid.

The procedure is as follows:

1.The required amounts of PPG and BA should be mixed together.

2.The required amount of steroid should be added to the solution while it is heated. It's best to immerse a sterile container containing the solution and pellets into hot water so that the temperature can of the mixture can be carefully controlled. Care should be taken not to allow the solution to become too hot.

3.After the steroid has dissolved completely into the PPG/BA solution, add the PEG and mix the solution until it is evenly distributed.

4. Draw the solution up in a syringe and pass is through the syringe filter into a sterile container. This will remove any particulates that may be present and help sterilize the solution.

5.As an optional step, some athletes will initially dissolve the pellets in acetone. The resultant solution is then poured through several coffee filter, catching the glues and binders. The end solution should be left to evaporate until you are left with pure trenbolone crystals.

The third and final method of producing an injectable is to purchase an experimental kit designed for that purpose. The advantages of purchasing a kit is that all of the materials necessary for the experiment are provided for you at very little expense. One very popular kit is profiled later in this article.

Removing Estradiol Benzoate from Testosterone Implants

Any athlete who uses an implant containing estradiol will rapidly find themselves shopping for comfortable bras. No amount of anti-estrogen can block the effects of the large amount of female hormone contained within these implants. The only way to effectively use these implants is to remove the estradiol component prior to administration.

So, how can the estradiol benzoate (EB) be separated from the testosterone propionate (TP)? By examining the Merck Index, it's clear that while TP is readily soluble in ether, EB is not. Various kits are available that take advantage of the different properties of TP and EB. Using one of these kits are a must before using either Synovex or Implus-H. These kits will not remove 100% of the estrogen contained within the implant so concomitant use of an estrogen blocker is required.
 
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