Finaplix Gold or Deca on first cycle???

[Diamond Dogg]

Make way guys, there's a newbie on deck!
Wassup yall!!! I've been lifting for a while and added about 20 lbs. with the regular hyped up supplements (creatine, protien shakes, etc, etc, ect). However I've hit the proverbial wall and can't seem to gain another pound so I've decided to pop my cherry and become gear head. I've been doing alot of research on gear for the last months and I'm trying to decide on one of two 8 week cycles. Here they are:

Finaplex Gold100mg eod/Sust 500mg per week/Dbol 30mg perday
or
Deca 400mg per week/Sust 500 mg per week/Dbol 30mg per day

Which do you guys think would be best for adding mass? I 'm naturally cut so I'm not too worried about definition right now.

I should add that if I did the Fina stack I would frontload 750mg Sust for the first two weeks and if I did the Deca stack I would frontload 500mg Deca for the first two weeks. After the first two weeks I would drop to 500mg per week of Sust on the Fina stack or 400mg Deca, 500 Sust on the Deca stack. Also just to let you know, I have the metabolisim of a baby rat on speed and am naturally ripped from head to toe which I guess is why it's hard for me to hold weight. Before you guys flame on me just let me say that I was planning on taking 25mg of proviron per day all the way up to when I start my clomid therapy. Clomid therapy is going to start 3 weeks after last Sust injection and is going to be as follows: 100mg/day for 1st week and 50mg/day for 2 weeks after that. I was going to add 5000 i.u. of HCG in the mix but I don't know if i'll need it since my cycle is only going to be for 8 weeks. I know from reading all you guys posts that it's cheaper to make your own Fina, but since I'm a new jack I have no idea where to get a kit from. I found the Fina but just can't find the damn kit!!! But I found this place that sells the Finaplex Gold by Valopharm for $300 and until I find a kit I was going to go with that. Also, I'll be eating between 3500-4000 calories and 300 grams of protien per day. I'm 26 yrs old 6ft tall and about 165 lbs.
Any added input or advise would be greatly appreciated

 

[manny78]

The way you planned your cycle I would go Deca since its the perfect combo with sust and Dbols. I would also add some winny..........but !!! euhh 26 yr old 6' and 165 lbs ? hummm yu sure your diet is Ok ? you train hard enough ?

 

[BigAndy69]

Finaplex Gold is shit. Very underdosed.

Btw, you've hit a wall at 165, why not try to change your routine up. I remember when I hit my first wall at 178lbs. Now I'm 195-200 lbs...and I still haven't turned to the darkside.

 

[Diamond Dogg]

Well, before when I was lifting I didn't have the proper diet but since I started back in January I started eating properly and only working each bodypart once a week. That's when I started gaining. I actually got up to about 170 but got sick and lost a little in April and May and I havn't been able to break through and conquer like I want to. It's reall frustrating because my dad was lifted and in the picture I saw of hiom he was huge. He claims to have never used gear and I know if he found out that I about to I'd never hear the end of I at Thanksgiving. It would be like a bad episode of Seinfeld and I would be George Costanza!!!

What can I say, I'm just trying to make a difference!!!

 

[techlifter_2]

there was a post sometime back about the finaplix gold. it said something like it had just 50mg/ml, not 100mg/ml. if you are going to do fina, you should email a mod and ask where to get a's kit, especially considering the price. also, ed doses of fina are much better than eod if you dont mind sticking yourself.

 

[BigAndy69]

It doesn't just happen. It's very hard to do it without gear and trust me the temptation is very real for me. I just think it makes you a better bodybuilder if you are able to gain naturally. I takes a lot of work and a lot of time, but in the end you are a better person. You might not gain anything for a few months or so, but you keep playing around with small things in your training, diet and recover, and then, you start getting stronger and bigger and you know exactly what made you grow.

But since you are 26 years old, you are old enough to use gear, just research it to death and never assume that you know everything.

 

[jstrong20]

there was a post sometime back about the finaplix gold. it said something like it had just 50mg/ml, not 100mg/ml.

I'm not sure but I think it was even more underdosed than that and was 33mg/ml but don't quote me on it.

 

[Diamond Dogg]

Thanx for the help guys. I WILL master this iron game. Oh by the way do you think I need HCG on this cylce or will clomid work fine?

 

[BigAndy69]

there was a post sometime back about the finaplix gold. it said something like it had just 50mg/ml, not 100mg/ml. if you are going to do fina, you should email a mod and ask where to get a's kit, especially considering the price. also, ed doses of fina are much better than eod if you dont mind sticking yourself.

It's probably lower somewhere around 30mg/ml.