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Finally Decided on my 1st cycle!

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Finally Decided on my 1st cycle! ( Pic inside)

Stats:

24 Years old
170lbs
5'7
14% BF

FIRST CYCLE PLAN :

Test E/300mg/EW/1-12
Anavar/50mg/ED/ 8-14

Clomid as PCT or Test Recovery Stack as PCT

After alot of research I finally came to a conclusion on what to run for my first cycle.What do you guys think? Any tips? suggestions?

Also, i wanted to know, am I too heavy for my height? Im about 170lbs.

Heres a pic just in case.

http://i36.tinypic.com/nmgi6s.jpg
 
i would prefer you wait a few more years but otherwise look like a good starting point--except i would do 250/every 5 days and drop the var to 30/day and do from weeks 6-14 instead.

and check out Nelson Montana's New PCT and Primordial Performance's --they are stickies at the top of the thread--the newest thought on proper pct
 
nice little base to work off of man..age is looking right too.

of course youre not too heavy to run the gear - you should know that.

cycle looks good save one caveat. you definitely want to invest in some human grade dbol for a kickstart. i know i know, i can tell by your prudent test dose your paranoid about bloat and fat and thats why youre going with var as well, but let me disspell some paranoia from you:

at 40mg ed for the first 4 weeks of the cycle..you will have little if any bloat. the benefits faaar outweigh the negatives of the estrogenic activity of the dbol.

- instead of waiting till week 4 to really notice anything..youre going to starting massing by the end of week one, hence, you will enjoy a true 12 week cycle of growth.

- youre overkilling the issue of dbol and test causing gyno and bloat when if you think about it man, the test is slowly building while youre running the dbol and isnt going to be reaching maximum blood plasma levels until you are coming off the kickstart. youre going to be anabolically PRIMED to explode from the dianabol. trust me bro, it makes a serious diff to run it as your long ester is building up.

- this is your FIRST cycle bro. you only get one. why pussy foot? go for it. if youre so concerned spend a few bucks on some nolva and be ready for any eventuality. dont shortchange the entire cycle bc you want to have your cake and eat it too. steroids dont work that way, contrary to popular belief. you want to grow right? the dbol is going to be of far greater signifigance than the anavar as a means of effecting that end goal, and so what if you get a bit puffy the first half of the cycle? the var and a clean diet will tighten you up come the second half and solidify your gains, so no sense in being a bitch about it.

be a man. eat your dbols.

Good luck and happy growing.
 
But alot of people told me since its my FIRST cycle, not to mess with Dbol. Ive been told many times to just to TEST ONLY just to see how my body reacts, then act differently from my 2nd cycle. But i decided to throw anavar in there and take my chances. What do you guys think about adding Dbol? And also, how would the doses work in the equation with Test and var?
 
Re: Finally Decided on my 1st cycle! ( Pic inside)

Also, i wanted to know, am I too heavy for my height? Im about 170lbs.

Haha to light you mean?
 
personally i wouldn't worry about body fat to much unless you were like 20%+, i mean the whole point of taking test is to put size on! your by no means fat so you should be good
 
Yeah, so can anyone tell me if its worth throwing in the DBOL to kick start the cycle? and what the doses should look like?
 
Also, if DBOL is kind of a heavy kickstart, are there any other alternative kickstarters that are milder?
 
ok i do want some size, but not SERIOUS SERIOUS size... You see my frame from the pic that i put, how much bigger in size will dbol get me?
 
You're not too heavy. Your pic looks pretty good (save the gay ass pose)

I'd say forget the var. it's too damn expensive and I wouldn't trust any UGL var out there as being fully dosed.

Your test dosage is perfect. Add in dbol at a light dose (25mg) for 4 weeks and you've got a terrific first cycle.
 
if i were you i would go with tbol over dbol. you'll make some real nice strength (and size, for me atleast) gains with a fraction of the water retention. i think that would be a better choice rather than dbol imo. just look into it is all i'm saying.
 
How does TBOL compare to DBOL? Is Tbol milder?
And is it really worth getting rid of the anavar for either tbol or dbol?
 
Alot of people are taking the TBOl because they dont like the bloat, and theres also alot of controversy between var and TBOl.

Also everyone says that taking 2 orals is not a good idea, so if Tbol comes into the equation, we have Var , TBOL, and Test, 2 orals and 1 inject.

There was also alot of talk about Tbol and Var stack, 2 orals? Im hearing that this is an excellent combo. Any thoughts on this?
 
the problem with d-bol kickstart and ending with var is you will have 14 weeks on an oral (although var is very mild). there is no loss in just doing test w/o the kickstart if you are willing to wait a bit for kick. also, because you are on the younger side, the dbol + test + var will give you significant strength gains very fast and I would worry a bit that your soft tissue is not quite strong enough yet--remember gear use is a marathon, not a race.
 
centy said:
You're not too heavy. Your pic looks pretty good (save the gay ass pose)

I'd say forget the var. it's too damn expensive and I wouldn't trust any UGL var out there as being fully dosed.

Your test dosage is perfect. Add in dbol at a light dose (25mg) for 4 weeks and you've got a terrific first cycle.
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Good advice too, run what Centy sez.
 
honestly, in my opinion, for your first cycle you really should just stick with the test by itself for 12 weeks. Your body is going to be very receptive and fresh to anything you put into it at this point. Think of it as an introduction for your body, if you throw too many things at it at once, it could cause problems. I personally ran my first cycle with 250mg of TestE for about 14 weeks and had great results. Yes it does take about 4-5 weeks before you start seeing results (which with your first cylce, it feels like a lifetime) but since you have never juiced, it may be the way to go..

I am a very big fan of Dbol...It is one of the best things if used CORRECTLY. Obviously, when something is capable of producing very good results, there are problems on the other side of the equation. I personally would use around 40-50mg / Day for the first four weeks of the cycle...

Be sure not to touch alcohol while on dbol...Definitely make sure your PCT is on hand at all times...and for gods sake...protect your liver!!!!!

GOOD LUCK


Annabolick
 
eddymerckx said:
i would prefer you wait a few more years but otherwise look like a good starting point--except i would do 250/every 5 days and drop the var to 30/day and do from weeks 6-14 instead.and check out Nelson Montana's New PCT and Primordial Performance's --they are stickies at the top of the thread--the newest thought on proper pct
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yup
 
How long you been training bro?

I agree with Eddy. I think you have at least 20 more lbs to gain naturally before you start your first cycle.

That being said, I'd start with test enanthate or test cyp as a first cycle.
 
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