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liftr486

liftr486

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hey guys i just wanted to get ur thoughts on what kind of results this cycle should yield. I have been off for about 2yrs and I didn't wanna go crazy, but I still wanna make some good gains. I plan on beginning on May 1st.

12 week cycle:
weeks 1-12 prop 100mg eod
weeks 1-6 tren 37.5mg ed
weeks 1-10 eq 400mg/week

AIFM 2-3 pumps 2x day (very gyno prone)
Dostinex 0.5mg 2x week
(Nolvadex and Letro on hand)

Plus Liver Detox/Multi/Policosanol/Sesapure/Glucorell and shitloads of water

PCT:
Start 2 days after last prop shot?

Weeks one thru three: 1,000U HCG, IM, Monday, Wednesday, Friday;
20mg Nolvadex daily.
50mg clomid daily

Weeks four thru six:
20mg Nolvadex daily.
50mg Clomid daily

K to everyone who shares thoughts
 
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liftr486 said:
hey guys i just wanted to get ur thoughts on what kind of results this cycle should yield. I have been off for about 2yrs and I didn't wanna go crazy, but I still wanna make some good gains. I plan on beginning on May 1st.

12 week cycle:
weeks 1-12 prop 100mg eod
weeks 1-6 tren 37.5mg ed
weeks 1-10 eq 400mg/week

AIFM 2-3 pumps 2x day (very gyno prone)
Dostinex 0.5mg 2x week
(Nolvadex and Letro on hand)

PCT:
Start 2 days after last prop shot?

Weeks one thru three: 1,000U HCG, IM, Monday, Wednesday, Friday;
20mg Nolvadex daily.
50mg clomid daily

Weeks four thru six:
20mg Nolvadex daily.
50mg Clomid daily

K to everyone who shares thoughts
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If you're gyno prone, use letrozole during the cycle. You'll find that it's the most potent AI out there. It will keep you gyno free.

I like your PCT, except I would load the HCG at the start of PCT with 500IUs for 10 days straight.
 
Mr.X said:
If you're gyno prone, use letrozole during the cycle. You'll find that it's the most potent AI out there. It will keep you gyno free.

I like your PCT, except I would load the HCG at the start of PCT with 500IUs for 10 days straight.
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wat dose? last time i used pnp's letro my sex drive was crap (but then again that whole cycle sucked) and that liquid stuff always fucks with my stomach. (i do however have ag guy's on hand tho).

i thought u shouldnt really run the hcg that much cuz of desensitizing the testes?
 
ricorico said:
sounds good bro.....i would personally run tren at a higher dosage but you know what works for you
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i made my own last time and ran about 75-80mg ed and after a few weeks pus began coming out of my nipples, so i rather be safe than sorry.
 
liftr486 said:
wat dose? last time i used pnp's letro my sex drive was crap (but then again that whole cycle sucked) and that liquid stuff always fucks with my stomach. (i do however have ag guy's on hand tho).

i thought u shouldnt really run the hcg that much cuz of desensitizing the testes?
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When you run letrozole you will have lower sex-drive, but that's true for most AIs to some degree. Letrozole tends to lower your sex drive temporarily, but using test should help that problem :p of course, there is good old cialis too :chomp:

For your cycle, 1mg of letrozole ED would be plenty. Remember, studies have shown that individuals have gotten great estrogen lowering results with just .25mgs of letrozole ED. Thus, the bodybuilder/steroid user dosage is higher, but still within reasonable range - especially considering your lower test amounts.
 
Mr.X said:
When you run letrozole you will have lower sex-drive, but that's true for most AIs to some degree. Letrozole tends to lower your sex drive temporarily, but using test should help that problem :p of course, there is good old cialis too :chomp:

For your cycle, 1mg of letrozole ED would be plenty. Remember, studies have shown that individuals have gotten great estrogen lowering results with just .25mgs of letrozole ED. Thus, the bodybuilder/steroid user dosage is higher, but still within reasonable range - especially considering your lower test amounts.
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so u would start the letro at 1mg the day i start the cycle then? how do i dose that w/ the liquid one? i can never get a full dropper's worth.
 
liftr486 said:
i thought u shouldnt really run the hcg that much cuz of desensitizing the testes?
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that's only 500IUs of HCG, 10days x 500IUs per day
 
bigmouth2006 said:
and that liquid stuff always fucks with my stomach.

i alway that pepcid when i take anything orally first thing in the morning helps big time
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thats a good idea, ill have to try it
 
liftr486 said:
so u would start the letro at 1mg the day i start the cycle then? how do i dose that w/ the liquid one? i can never get a full dropper's worth.
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Get yourself one of your syringes from your stash, and measure out 1mg. Oral syringes, $1 at the local "drug" store are also fine ;)
 
liftr486 said:
hey guys i just wanted to get ur thoughts on what kind of results this cycle should yield. I have been off for about 2yrs and I didn't wanna go crazy, but I still wanna make some good gains. I plan on beginning on May 1st.

12 week cycle:
weeks 1-12 prop 100mg eod
weeks 1-6 tren 37.5mg ed
weeks 1-10 eq 400mg/week

AIFM 2-3 pumps 2x day (very gyno prone)
Dostinex 0.5mg 2x week
(Nolvadex and Letro on hand)

PCT:
Start 2 days after last prop shot?

Weeks one thru three: 1,000U HCG, IM, Monday, Wednesday, Friday;
20mg Nolvadex daily.
50mg clomid daily

Weeks four thru six:
20mg Nolvadex daily.
50mg Clomid daily

K to everyone who shares thoughts
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Nice Cycle bro,I keep hearing bros raveing about their tren/prop cycles and mine is going to start in 2 weeks, im gonna do 75mgs/ED for the tren but i think if ur more comfortable with half that like u listed then thats cool too. As for HCG I def agree, make sure to take anywhere from 400-500IU/ED for the first 10-12 days ...thats what I plan on doing and like I said nice cycle and keep us posted with ur results,...ps cant wait to start my cycle ;)
 
TracDT1 said:
Nice Cycle bro,I keep hearing bros raveing about their tren/prop cycles and mine is going to start in 2 weeks, im gonna do 75mgs/ED for the tren but i think if ur more comfortable with half that like u listed then thats cool too. As for HCG I def agree, make sure to take anywhere from 400-500IU/ED for the first 10-12 days ...thats what I plan on doing and like I said nice cycle and keep us posted with ur results,...ps cant wait to start my cycle ;)
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so do 500iu hcg ed for 10 days and then do three weeks of mwf 1000iu ea?
 
liftr486 said:
hey guys i just wanted to get ur thoughts on what kind of results this cycle should yield. I have been off for about 2yrs and I didn't wanna go crazy, but I still wanna make some good gains. I plan on beginning on May 1st.

12 week cycle:
weeks 1-12 prop 100mg eod
weeks 1-6 tren 37.5mg ed
weeks 1-10 eq 400mg/week

AIFM 2-3 pumps 2x day (very gyno prone)
Dostinex 0.5mg 2x week
(Nolvadex and Letro on hand)

Plus Liver Detox/Multi/Policosanol/Sesapure/Glucorell and shitloads of water

PCT:
Start 2 days after last prop shot?

Weeks one thru three: 1,000U HCG, IM, Monday, Wednesday, Friday;
20mg Nolvadex daily.
50mg clomid daily

Weeks four thru six:
20mg Nolvadex daily.
50mg Clomid daily

K to everyone who shares thoughts
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A few thoughts here.... as someone else said, if Tren gave you gyno, you may want to reconsider.... maybe use tbol or anavar to kickstart that cycle.... also, I'm no expert with EQ, but my understanding is that alot of guys run it for at least 14 weeks since it takes a good amount of time to start kicking in.... also, I remember reading that 500-600mg EQ is a good dosage (don't quote me on this)... definitely run your test 2 weeks longer than the EQ

Definitely use HCG... I've done 500 iu for 10 days and I've done 1500 iu , 3x's a week for 3 weeks.... both did a decent job....important is your timing... you can do it within a couple of days past your last prop shot since it's a fast-acting test

Clomid may or may not be overkill in your PCT - if you don't get any sides from clomid, it couldn't hurt....

I'd also run your AIFM for as long as you run the HCG (to counteract any estrogenic sides)

Good luck bro!
 
liftr486 said:
so do 500iu hcg ed for 10 days and then do three weeks of mwf 1000iu ea?
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Me personally im going to do 2 weeks at 500iu/ED, some people may suggest 3 weeks and thats fine too. But overall I personally would recommend more then 3 weeks of HCG. Start with 500iu/ED and if after 5 or 6 days u dont notice ur nuts dropping and getting bigger then u can up the dose slightly. But yeah 2-3 weeks of 500iu/ED should be enough.
 
the reason i wanted to try the tren again was because last time i didnt run dostinex with it and this time ive already started it so its already in my system

u think i should do EQ @ 600mg/week instead?
 
per mr x's suggestion i decided to run letro during cycle but was wondering if i needed to run nolva during the cycle as well?

prop 100mg eod
tren 37.5mg ed
600mg eq/wk
 
wierd it wont let you be quoted??

well... tren hex is just a longer ester (a lot longer than acetate)- it used to be sold under the trade name parabolan.

btw- AIFM is very likely fine. If you want to have letro on hand, but even the most gyno prone tend to do well with AIFM.
 
liftr486 said:
per mr x's suggestion i decided to run letro during cycle but was wondering if i needed to run nolva during the cycle as well?

prop 100mg eod
tren 37.5mg ed
600mg eq/wk
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You don't need nolvadex, letrozole at 1.25mgs ED is just fine. :coffee: Good luck with the cycle bro.
 
don't know if its my imagination but my nipples seem to be gettin a little puffy...would upping the letro to 2.5mg ed fuck with my gains? (i kno it would mess up my sex drive, but i cant get gyno again) k to all
 
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