Final word before I start my Deca!

[DEEZEL]

Ok, I see alot of talk about deca dick on here and I don't want it. I am about to start my new cycle which will be...

Week 1-5 30mg D-bol
Week 1-10 300mg Deca
Week 1-10 250mg Sus

Should I just do the deca weeks 1-8 and stay on the sus a little longer? Like 12 weeks? I did deca last year alone and had problems with the libido. I NEVER WANT TO EXPERIENCE THAT AGAIN! So, what will cancel this out? Someone was talking about Broma-something??? Or will the sus cancel it out? I'm only 170lbs right now, so I don't want to up the sus to 500mg/week, so any other suggestions would be great.

Help! I start March 1st!!!!!!

 

[Surgical]

The length of the Sust and Deca looks good, but I'd go with 500 of Sust if you're going to use 300 of Deca. With a low 250 of Sust you still might get Deca dick.

 

[Stryker1992]

I disagree with Bumpo. I like deca a lot especially with sust and dbol. I have no problems with libido with that mix. If you have not done it before give it a shot. You may want to up the sust a bit as previously advised.

 

[02gixxersix]

i dont think I will ever use deca. I agree totaly with Bumpo. If you had problems with it then maybe ur body just doesnt agree with it so why would you do it again. Find some equipoise or do a sus only cycle. I would up the sus to 500 and drop the d-bol. I've said it a thousand times and if you do a search you'll find a lot of vets who agree with me. Orals are not necessary for beginner cycles although TOO many guys on here recommend them. The way I see it is basically, why use all your weapons all at once. Later down the line when you dont gain as well of cycles then add the orals. they;re also really harsh on your system. At 170 lbs 500 or even 250 of sus a week will make u gain like crazy given you have a good diet. if you are gonna add anything I think it should be fina. But i'm inluv with fina and it will be a part of every cycle I ever do from here on out.

 

[DEEZEL]

I had great gains last year with deca, that's why I want to do it again. If I up the sus to 500mg can I still mix it in one shot a weeek with the deca? Or is 800mg a shot too much for someone my size? And I want to use the d-bol to jumpstart the cycle.

Half of the posts on here support the deca/ d-bol/ sus combo. But now I am worrying.

Let me get one thing straight.. You guys think that doing 500mg of sus a week instead of 300 deca/250 sus will still get me the same gains? Because if that's true, I'll just drop the deca and get more sus and novla. I haven't picked up the deca yet.

Please more opinions.

 

[Canuck4]

You always want to do more Test than Deca per week.
Also extending the Test till week 12 and stopping the Deca at week 8 might help.
But if you had problems with libido and Deca before, chances are you'll get it again. Maybe worst.

 

[DEEZEL]

Alright, forget the Deca. You guys have definately talked me out of it. I am going to run 500mg Sustenon for weeks 1-10 and I'll kickstart it with 30mg D-bol ED for weeks 1-4.

But, I just did a search and I read about ridiculous pain form shooting Sustenon alone. I will be shooting in my delts.

I think since I'm only 175lbs, I'll do fine with just the sus. But what will happen if I shoot 500mg once a week in my delt?
Pain???

And I have Novladex, should I run it through the entire cycle or just the end. And what else should I run post cycle if anything.

 

[granby140]

If you go with 500mg a week, split it up into two shots, one on say monday and then another on thursday. It will help keep levels more consistent. You will need clomid post cycle, first dosage of clomid would start 3 weeks after your last shot of sust.

 

[JB01]

Not to push you twards doing a lot of gear but have you thought of using EQ to replace the deca? I think you would like the results 300-400mg/w

 

[Canuck4]

With Sustanon you definetely want to split them to twice per week to keep somewhat constant levels.

 

[crsnavet]

Alright, forget the Deca. You guys have definately talked me out of it. I am going to run 500mg Sustenon for weeks 1-10 and I'll kickstart it with 30mg D-bol ED for weeks 1-4.

But, I just did a search and I read about ridiculous pain form shooting Sustenon alone. I will be shooting in my delts.

I think since I'm only 175lbs, I'll do fine with just the sus. But what will happen if I shoot 500mg once a week in my delt?
Pain???

And I have Novladex, should I run it through the entire cycle or just the end. And what else should I run post cycle if anything.

This is a much better choice IMO. I was about your size to begin with and I am in week 3 of a similar cycle.
500mg sust wks 1-10
35mg dbol wks 1-5

Just started wk3 and am up 14lbs. I am running femera EOD along with 20mg Nolva EOD. I am holding no water, but gaining a shitload of muscle.
I recommend some arimidex, femera or liquidex. You will not regret the choice.
I think if you shoot 500mg sust at once in a delt you will be VERY sorry. Even 250mg in the delt was too painful. Shoot your quads and glutes. They hurt way less. My quads are already used to it and hurts less each time, but only do 250mg 2x's a week.

Gte clomid for post cycle. Do this and eat like a horse. You will blow up.

 

[bigtex1125]

Screw Deca, throw in Fina or EQ. Split up the Sust (which I would shoot in my ass, but delts are fine), and use clomid for post. The D-bol is always a good option, but I'd definately stick with b/t 20 and 30mg if this is your first time. Good luck bro.

 

[DEEZEL]

Thanks again...

Okay, I'm sticking with this...

weeks 1-5 30mg D-Bol ED
weeks 1-10 500mg Sustenon (shooting 250mg on Mon and Thurs)
I'm going to run Nolvadex 20mg EOD and Clomid post cycle.

My diet is very strict and I work out hard. I start my first shot March 3rd. I'll keep you all posted. Thanks for all your help.

One last question, is femara a shot or tab, or what? And how do I get a hold of some and when is it to be taken?

 

[The Architect]

Like Bigtex suggested I would throw in some eq, you will be much happier with the results.

 

[Canuck4]

Looks good and well planned bro.
Femara is an anti-e in tab form.
It works better than Nolva IMO.
Typical doses are around one 2.5mg tab EOD or ED for heavyer cycles.

 

[crsnavet]

I like the cycle you have posted. It looks a lot like mine. I laso will be running 50mg winny wks 9-12 ED to cut up at the end.

Femera is a tab as Canuck said. Each tab is 2.5mg . Femera is also referred to as letrozole.

 

[DEEZEL]

Thanks

I'd probably be bloated as hell with nasty bitch tits if I didn't find this site, lol.