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Fina/Winny Journal..will be updated daily

Kakdiesel

Kakdiesel

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Themachine, gave me this idea..so I figure there are plenty of bro's on here who have never tried Fina like myself and were curious as to what can happen with it..I mean it seems like the perfect drug..cheap, legal, and very very potent..

so i'll keep you all updated from here on out.

Diet: 2200 cals a day at macro ratios of 40/40/20 (carb, pro, fat..with fat being from flax and saturated sources--i.e. meat)

Today: Injected 75mg Fina, 50mg Winny (1/2 ml of the Ttokkyo Winny that is 100mg/ml)

Stats: 5'11,

180 lbs, 10% bf (used skin calipers this morning before breakfast)

Off Day

Will do cardio tonite
 
Woops...guess it hasnt been "daily" like I planned but not much to report since I my weekends are my off days...

Shot up 75 mg FIna/ 50mg of Winny (1/2 ml of Ttokkyo winny)

Hitting up Chest/Abs today.

I've also decided that I'll keep the cranberry juice saved until post workout...if i'm gonna drink liquid carbs its only gonna be after post workout when insulin sensitivity is highest..I know I know, fructose isnt the best type of carb to take after workouts but it'll do..

It'll help by saving calories, while keeping low to mod carb throughout the rest of the day.

Supps are xenadrine (got it really cheap so I bought it), Milk Thistle 200mg/day, Mutli-vitamin, and mostly water..


As a side note, i've read some posts on the anabolic board about the concern if they converted the fina correctly. I KNOW i did and to be honest, it looks like dark piss in the vial. just a golden oil.

Quick question, since I havent lifted since Friday (started my first injection on thursday last week) and I didnt lift this weekend I cant tell really of any strength increases (obviously)..when have other fina users who injected, experienced it "kickin" in? a week? few days?

Thanks
 
I went to bed early last night..i'm suppose to meet my friend Josh at the gym in about an hour..so I figured since I woke up early this morning, i'd fuck around on the computer while I wait to go work out..

varnsen are you really in ibiza spain??? thats fuckin hot..i've always wanted to go there. i've had friends who went for vacations in the summer and said that is hands down the party capital of the world..and they've been to cancun, mardi gras, and the kentucky derby..
 
The kentucky derby? Bah... I don´t know it but it doesn´t sound very "elegant"... ehe...
I´m going to Ibiza on Saturday... I´ve been there before... Lots of americans, sun and good women... The beaches themselves aren´t THAT great, and i can say you Portugal has much better beaches than Spain... Maiorca has some good beaches though and lots of partying going around...
 
i def. want to go to ibiza for my honeymoon..i've already decided that..screw wherever my future wife wants to go..that is THE hot spot in the world
 
what is your lifting schedule/routine?

your cardio...how often do you do it and what exactly do you do? (i.e. how long and at what speed/intensity levl)
 
Training routine:

Monday :chest/ abs
Tuesday Back/ Biceps/traps
Wednesay Cardio (HIIT) (i was always a sprinter type athlete playing basketball and baseball in high school and I also ran one year of hurdles in highschool and baseball at the same time..i cant stand slow, easy cardio--no fun)
Thursday Legs, triceps/Abs
Friday Cardio (Hiit)

Sat. Sun OFF

I play full court basketball when I can..but ive been busy lately so havent done that.. on my off days, on one of the days I'll actually do a 30 min ab workout just to hit abs hard all by themselves once..
 
Again, good idea to post this .......

BTW..... keep us updated on the ill effects (if any) on your sex drive (aren't you taking some test in this cycle?)
 
No test..i didnt want to worry about any aromatizing side effects due to estrogen...

plus wanted to save some money on this cycle..

So far so good...actually I feel like sex drive is up since I started the Fina..maybe a placebo effect i dont know..

but mah dick still be wantin to fuck yo momma LOL j/k
 
Keep us posted I am going to start the same cycle next month But I am going to throw some test enanth at 250/wk to keep this little guy happy. :D
 
Ok its Tuesday now, sixth day of Fina/winny cycle..

One thing I noticed that about two days after the 1st injection, I got sides real quick..

and when I say sides I mean acne on my traps..i mean real quick.

I feel a lot more aggressive and having problems sleeping and relaxing..My lifts in the gym havent gone nuts yet, but I"m being patient and waiting for it to kick in..strength has increased but i'm gonna give it probably another day or two to really notice pumps.

I've lost a lot of water and feel really tight and hard already. Not shredded but feel really solid..

I think the water loss is due to the low/moderate carbs and ECA...
 
Kak are you taking anything to sleep at night? Do you think the restlesness is from the ECA or the Fina/Winny also what kind of ECA stack are you taking, is it like a Xenadrine or are you mixing each type yourself?

Your getting me pretty excited to do my cycle next month!

I am going to do Fina 75/EOD, Winny 35/ED, Test enanth 250/wk for 6 weeks
 
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Kak, 4 weeks on fina and winny, sides are pretty bad. Do you feel like you have the flu. I am tired and drained. Good sleep is a thing of the past, and my dreams are wacked.
 
Yeah I do have fucked up dreams..wonder why that its?? I didnt say anythign cuz I didnt realize it might have to do with my gear....weird...

anyways, I'm feeling really sluggish today..i dont know why...i slept 12 hours last night...

about to hit hit the gym around 4 oclock today..
 
Kak I wouldn't give the fault to Fina, I'm on Winny now and this lazy feeling is the same I have so that guess it's Winny how does this
 
hey guys,

it's def the winny making you feel like that...make sure you have clomid post cycle cause it gets worse...fyi

bull69,

how are the joints so far???feeling the "snap-crackle-pop" yet???
 
da big thinker said:
hey guys,

it's def the winny making you feel like that...make sure you have clomid post cycle cause it gets worse...fyi

bull69,

how are the joints so far???feeling the "snap-crackle-pop" yet???
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I am definitely feeling it. I have never had problem with my SI joint. I have had to go in twice now for an adjustment.
 
Guys,

Is there any permanent damage to joints due to winny use. Also should taking test with the fina/winny cycle help the lazy feeling?

Kak what do you mean by weird dreams?
 
Weird dreams like shit you never would think you would dream about...

i mean shit that has nothing to do with anything in my life..and they are fucked up..bad thing is is when I wake up I just have this like "damn that was fucked up" feeling but i forget exactly what the dream was bout.
 
Kakdiesel said:
Weird dreams like shit you never would think you would dream about...

i mean shit that has nothing to do with anything in my life..and they are fucked up..bad thing is is when I wake up I just have this like "damn that was fucked up" feeling but i forget exactly what the dream was bout.
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Kak, I know what you mean. Mine are either real violent or very sexual. I know your thinking what is weird about the sexual ones. Welllllllll they have been about women!!!!!!!!
 
No actually I dont have any sexual dreams...Just ones like one I kinda barely remember about me hanging out with one of my best friends and his girlfriend who hates me..And I felt really weird hanging with them and out of the blue I punched her in the jaw and my friend and I got into a brawl...

made no sense cuz it was in an airport runway..those things you stand on that "carry" you down the corridor...

weird
 
Busta said:
What about the joint problems, this has me concerned is it permanent?
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No, it is not supposed to be pemanent. I hope that is correct. I already have had every ligament replaced in my right knee due to college footbal.
 
Busta said:
Kak are you taking anything to sleep at night? Do you think the restlesness is from the ECA or the Fina/Winny also what kind of ECA stack are you taking, is it like a Xenadrine or are you mixing each type yourself?
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Im taking Xenadrine (its not worth its usual price but I got a 50% discount on it so I said what the hell)...

What am I taking at night? Well I have a lil bit of G that helps when i'm tossing and turning, but other than that I just deal with it and try to fall asleep..

Oh by the way, I think my blood pressue is increasing due to my headaches I get sometimes..like pressure building in my temples of my head...

Not bad, just every now and again..
 
Well I just got from the gym today..back and bi's day..

I feel like shit..i almost threw up at the gym after 4 sets of rows and 4 sets of latpulldowns..

I could barely make it through 3 sets of bi's until I knew I had to leave cuz i couldnt do shit..

I feel sick..dont know why..i worked out for half an hour..thats it...

came home, drank some carbs, ate some protein bars and here I am..i'm pissed off...

anybody else feel this way in the gym while on cycle? I literally felt like puking.
 
thats ok I was borderline heat stroke the other day...Getting back into shape and starting a running program isn't good considering I'm working everything 3 times a week....This is my last week till I start breaking it down into 5days with 4 days of running...Arhh I didn't think starting back into running would be so hard for an Ex distance runner...

You think you could be feeling like shit cause of the low carbs? If I drop my carbs real low I always get sick
 
my carbs arent too low..around 40% of my diet..

I think its flu symptoms that everybody experiences sometimes with gear.

I keep tryin to tell myself tht it'll be all worth it in a few weeks once I'm bigger and shredded
 
thanks for doing this kak, ive never tried fina before, and it helps to hear about it.

ive been considering it for my next cycle, prolly in a couple years( im taking time off btw ) currently bridging with Ox @ 50mg ed, with sick results.

when i hit my next cycle it will prolly look something like this;

fina 75mg eod
winny 50mg eod
anavar 40mg ed
cramberry extract x2 ed
liver detox x2 ed
low dose accutane 10- 20mg ( i get acne easily :( )
with 50pro/35carb/15fat

-for about 8- 10 weeks-
hoping to add 10lbs while losing bf%

how much are you hoping to gain, i take it your attempting to get tighter as you add some lbm.
good luck, and keep us all updated

:)
 
Right now i'm feeling like shit sitting here in my bedroom at my desk..

I seriously felt like puking..i cant stressed that enough..and its the first time durng the cycle I've felt this bad/sick..

lifts were terrrible today...my joints are gettin a little tight..and when I left the gym, it took my whole upperbody to turn my steering wheel to the right so I could pull out! LOL

Anyways, I have no plans tonite so I popped one of my mom's Lortabs heheeh..and just chill til the next episode
 
Kak do you think you should have this thread moved to the Anabolics section you might get some better feedback there.
 
Busta I considered it but I figure I frequent this board a lot more, and since everybody belongs to "elitefitness.com" its all the same really.

Plus, I like the entertaining comments and stuff that I might find on this thread..maybe questions or comments that some of the guys on teh anabolic board couldnt or wouldnt contribute...I mean I like the anabolic board a lot, but I also like to keep up with other topics on this board.

By the way, the Lortab isnt kickin in..i've never taken one before..when's it gonna kick in?? lol..
 
bull69,

if you're feeling it,then make sure you start supplementing BIG TIME w/ a combo of glucosamine and chondroitin sulfate...this will help the joints feel a lil' better.make sure that you concentrate on form at all times and never space out during a working set...the joint pain really gets to you and invites injury...GOOD LUCK ON THE CYCLE.

PS:IF YOU'RE ON A WINNY ONLY CYCLE,MAKE SURE YOU HAVE CLOMID POST CYCLE.DEPRESSION WILL SETTLE IN AND YOU WILL FEEL LIKE SHIT.CHECK OUT HUCK'S THREAD ON THE ANABOLICS BOARD.ONE OF MY GOOD FRIENDS IS GOING THRU SOME MAJOR DEPRESSION AFTER HIS WINNY ONLY CYCLE,WHICH ACCORDING TO A FEW VETS AND MODS IS A BIG NO-NO...FYI...
 
Well today is 8 straight days of 75mg Fina ed and 50mg Winny ed..both being injected in me and i feel like I've been poked more times than Bill Clinton's Mom (the elitefitness bill clinton handle that is:))

Anyways, i felt flu like symptoms the past week..draggin my ass like a quadraplegic, but i'm alright..i had a great workout this morning...

sore as shit though..i dont know if its the fina or winny but my joints and my muscles are sore like a mother fucker..i can barely move...

I have no clue why this is....plus i'm drinking two gallons of water a day which sucks kinda cuz i have to piss every ten minutes...

nothing else to report as bodyfat and muscle hasnt increased or decreased noticably...Ranger said to give it two weeks so i'll see what happens to my body this week coming up :)

kakky
 
Ahhh...just injected some tren and winny for today :)

its six forty five am and I'm ready to start my day :)


Today and tomorrow are off days..so i'm gonna chill and hopefully let this tren build up in me so come monday I can explode into the gym!

Assuming that I'll finally feel that "true" kick of fina by then..

i'm still waiting on it dammit:mad:
 
Also I keep a diet journal whenever I'm dieting or putting on mass..

I write exactly what I eat, the nutritional values, the amount of the food I eat, at what times, and also I write down the times I throw in supplements. For example: Here was Thursday's Journal Entry:

8/2 Thursday

6:30 a.m.
Supps: mutli-vitamin, 200mg milk thistle, 75mg fina, 50mg winny, ECA

7:15 a.m.
6 egg whites 0c 24 p 0f 100 cals
2 whole eggs 2c 14p 8f 140cals
1C oatmeal 46c 5p 5 f 300 cals
total 48 c 43p 13f 540 cals.

and so on and so on so I get my total daily intake of macronutrients and also I calculate the percentage of each macro I took in that day as a whole: I'm trying to keep carbs at 35%, protein at 45%, fat at 20% everyday

we'll see if my diet ratio's work well or not for me..i've always either gone low fat, or high fat never like a "zone" or like Dan Duchaine's Isocaloric diet (33/33/33)..

Again, i'll keep all of you updated :)
 
Ok its monday august 6th and its weird but all my acne disappeared!

its weird..i've been washing my face and body with anti-bacterial soap the past week (i forget where i read this tip..i think it was from one of the old Hulkster's articles) and my skin has been so dried out balancing out the oiliness (is that a word? LOL) that my complexion has been fine..also I think its cuz of my genes cuz I never had acne problems growing up..(big ups to da asian skin heheh) anyways, my only complain is the soreness of injection spots.i'm talking like I feel like I got bullet wounds in me! Oh well...

I quit injecting into my delts cuz they are gettin too sore..like I said, in my short term experience with my first cycle (i did a sust and winny cycle as a first cycle a year ago) I think you get more sore with water based gear more so than oil based..just my opinion..

I can tell my hunger is going way up..I"m not sure if fina increases red blood cell production or what but i'm hungrier than a mother these days..thank god for Ephedrine to keep my hunger down..however at nights when I cant take any ephedrine I go to bed hungry as hell...arrgghh!

I look a lot leaner already though...since this is only week two I think by week 6 I will def. reach my goal..i'm very inspired and motivated with what I see in the mirror...

I will see this week how much my strength goes up..today is leg day :)

I will keep you updated

Kakky
 
well instead of leg day I did chest...great chest workout..veins were poppin outta my chest..looked kinda cool..

although my right delt is still sore from the injection from this past saturday..it was a bitch at times to do the incline bench and other press movements..

Did abs also today and it was weird but my abs (after I got up and walked out) started to crunch by themselves and convulse..it hurt like a mother..i dont know if they were cramping or what but they just started flexing by themselves to the point where it hurt..anybody else have this happen??
 
TheSalami said:
hey kak, is your already tiny chinese penis shrinking to the size of a grain of rice?
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actually no..i forgot to note this, but my libido and everything down there is working fine so far..i havent experienced any nut shrinkage yet..

again this is only the beginnin of my second week too..so i dont know..
 
BAMP For Update

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First off...I'm probally one of the few on this board who has had the chance to do legit Parabolon...many, many years ago. And I had some of the most vivid dreams ever....so I'm actually glad to hear this, though I've never had any with Fina....

The lack of Cortisol production is the key to joint pain, and Da big thinkers advice is sound...shark cartilage is good as well....

Sleep with a fan on, Melatonin for a sleep aid.....Once the Fina kicks in, there's no place to go but UP!!!!

The involuntary muscle contractions are most likely due to the lack of water and sodium....maybe add a bit more sodium to your diet, and 90mg's of Potassium every day to see if this eases the effect....I go through the same thing while on Lasix, which is quite often.....

This is a great thread, well thought out, diet is right on, training is good....you will do well....Push through the pain and stomach upset....the end result will please you greatly!!!...:)

Ranger
 
Sorry, fina journal is kinda slow right now..i'm goin through other shit.

my advice to anybody, add test in this cycle..i'm goin fuckin ape shit over here without it cuz of some othe rproblems i've been having in my life..

i've had crazy mood swings..like a girl almost..like pms'ing..its weird..
 
sorry to hear that, if you can get some test prop you can take that with your fina, that should get things working with the quickness!
 
KAK!!!!!! I want to know what is happening. What are the results like? KAK?????
 
Kak,

Please update with gains, if any, so far.

I have 5 carts waiting to be crushed and processed for a little cycle of my own.:D
 
Kak.... do you not work out your shoulders??? I looked at your workout chart... you need to hit your delts dude... I give a whole day to just that.

We really are gonna have to make some big changes with you this weekend. Call me when you get into town bro....
 
read the thread entitled with my name that anal asplorer started..i quit the cycle after 3 weeks..i have some major advice to anybody doing this kind of cycle
 
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