fina, test, and d-bol. Ultimate mass...

[jubei]

I've been going through my various cycle options based on the gear I have and am trying to figure out how to get the most amount of strength/mass gains. I want to be able to keep as much as possible after my cycle. This will be cycle number 2. I am 5'10 185lbs., and 5%bf. Let me know if nolvadex 10mg per day would be sufficient to reduce sides, also are there any small alterations I could do to improve the cycle. Thanks for everyones time.

Week 1-4 25 mg dbol every day
week 1-9 375 mg sustanon 250 (every 5 days)
week 1-8 50 mg trenbolone acetate
week 10-12 350 mg test prop.
week 10-20 10ml per week kynoselen
week 10-18 1 mg clen

Also HCG thereapy, and nolvadex post cycle.

 

[bigdelt69]

Let me break this down so that you can understand better how to meet your goals. First off you either have to bulk or cut. At 5% bf you need to bulk.

Cycle should be simple like this:

Weeks 1-8 sust 500mg ew
Weeks 1-4 dboll 30mg ed
Weeks 4-11 Tren .75mg ed
Weeks 8-11 Test prop 100mg eod

Hcg week 11 m/w/f 500iu
clomid week 11 300mg ed
nolva week 11 20mg ed
clomid week 12 200mg ed
nolva week 12 20mg ed
clomid week 13 50mg ed
nolva week 13 10mg ed

please delete the other threads you started on this same subject.

 

[jubei]

Thank you very much for the cycle breakdown. Your first comment was idiotic. No need for that type of thing.

 

[bigdelt69]

How so?

 

[jubei]

bigdelt69 Let me break this down so that you can understand better how to meet your goals. First off you either have to bulk or cut. At 5% bf you need to bulk.

It seemed that you were being rude and arrogant. Can you see how it could be interpreted. Maybe it's just me. Never mind, no big deal.

I was thinking about doing fina early in the cycle so I can avoid fina dick. Am I wrong on this, or should you not have fina so close to the end of a cycle?

 

[bigAragorn]

why are you running the clen for 8 weeks and with 2 weeks left of prop? i thought you were looking to keep all your gains. Use bigdelts cycle and then run the clen for 3 weeks afterwards to continue training as intense as you will be while on when your are doing post cycle therapy. Oh and pyramid up from 25 mcg to 125 or if youve used before start at an appropriate dosage and gradually increase by 25 mcg e3days untill you hit 125mcg or 150 but dont go too high.

 

[jubei]

I don't have clomid, but was planning on nolvadex plus hcg. Will fina be a problem so close to the end?

 

[bigdelt69]

Nolva will work fine in place of Clomid. About that statement: the way you had you cycle laid out was a little confusing. I was just trying to make it easier to understand. Not being arrogent at all, thats not how I am.

 

[jubei]

It's all good bigdelt. Someone please answer my question about fina at the end of a cycle. Come on now, somebody's gotta know this.

 

[bigAragorn]

you'll be fine......ending the fina and prop simultaneously will allow you to run your post cycle therapy (i.e clomid ) 3 days after your last injection. Your running test throughout so you'll be good.