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RdStrcklnd
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How long after a six week fina 80mg ed DMSO/50mg Winny ed cycle can I expect normal HTPA levels, taking no Clomid, only Arimidex 1 mg for 3 weeks? I simply cannot deal with the acne of Clomid.
Fina / HTPA ?
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From what I have read Fina shuts you down hard. I would risk the acne for 3 weeks inorder to keep my gains. What is the point of doing the cycle if you are going to lose your gains in the end from low hpta levels. This is my first time using fina so I dont know anything from experience but I would have to say, if you want to keep your gains go ahead and fuck the acne, take clomid(which I am assuming you could get if you want to)
Just my .02. Good Luck Bro
Chuck
Just my .02. Good Luck Bro
Chuck
Everyone recovers a bit differently. For me, after a fina cycle I am lucky if I can get it up at all for about a week and then I get morning wood again. I would expect the arimidex to work just as well as clomid over the three week period. Keep us posted on how it goes.
RdStrcklnd
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Will do Zyg, but what about sperm production? When do you guess it will return to normal count?
That may take a bit longer, but I do know someone who used ana and clomid to get his wife pregnant when the docs at the fertility clinic were of no help. It all hard to say, but even if you have been on tren, dont assume you are not producing sperm, there are many kids out there who were concieved on cycle.
RdStrcklnd
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Zyg,
Hell no, I'm not trying to have kids, I'm trying to see how long I have to wait before resuming donating sperm at a sperm bank, you need to be shooting a full load to get paid though.
Hell no, I'm not trying to have kids, I'm trying to see how long I have to wait before resuming donating sperm at a sperm bank, you need to be shooting a full load to get paid though.
Schwarzenyeater
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I did a cycle of Accutane before I ever juiced. I hopeing my next Clomid cycle will have no acne if it does Im going back on Accutane.
hahaha, thats some funny shit bro. Hell just keep on the clomid posts cycle for a couple months and they will wonder whats going on when you keep comming out of the room with 5 gallon jugs
.Chuck, you need to understand the basics and it will all make sense. I am just gonna keep it simple for now but Basically put the body has two promary feedback mechanisms for controlling natural test production. The first is strogen levels and the second is androgen levels. Now, certain anti-e's are better than others for certain things and some do additional things others dont, but I wont get into that here. Suffice it to say, that regardless of weather or not you are nolva, clomid, anastrozol, exemesatne, femara or what not, you are either preventing the creation of estrogen or blocking the estrogen receptor. In either case, the bodies main feedback for controlling test production has been circumvented. In the case of no esternal androgens (ie not on a cycle) the reduction (or apparent reduction by blocking receptors) tells the body to release many hormones, the details I wont go into but FSH and LH are the two that are primarily responsible for sperm production and test production in the teste's. Now assuming someone is not on cycle and androgen (ie testosterone) levels are normal or low, the blocking of estrogen, or prevention of its creation will tell the body that if there is no estrogen, there must be no test or low test so in turn the output of FSH and LH is increased which in turn will trigger sperm production and test production. As the bodies test production ramps up and test levels rise the body in turn sense high androgen, even in the absence of estrogen and levels off FSH/LH production. The nest result however still seems to be a boosted test level of approx 50-60% above norm.
RdStrcklnd
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I know there is no definite answer, but could you give me a guess as to how long after I've been taking fina/winny my sperm count will lower, and how long after (w/ Arimidex 1mg ed 3 wks.) it should take to get back up? Thanks a lot.
Wish I had a definate or even close answer for ya. Technically speaking sperm makes up a miniscule portion of your load anyways, most of the ejaculate is from your prostate. Shutdown on tren varies a great deal, some notice no testicular atrophy, others a lot. Once you start getting morning wood after a cycle your balls should begin to fill up as well. Thats about as specific as I can be.
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