Fina Help

[Keep it beefy]

i'm in the process of making fina, and i just got done allowing the pellets to dissolve in the magic vial. this took approx. 25 minutes for me (i heated it too). then i put the oil in it, and that's where i am now. my solution appears to have 2 layers...what does that mean? my glues haven't oxidized already have they? either way, i don't want to put this solution into the sterile vial just yet. i'd like to know if this sounds right to you guys. i know Mr. H said that when he is filtering in the coffee filter, he pours the top layer in first, and leaves the glue layer behind...thats what worries me. it appears as though i have 2 layers even though i only left it in the magic vial alone for 25. any help would be greatly appreciated.

-beefy

 

[Keep it beefy]

die die die

 

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ASK ZYG, HES THE FINA GURU.

 

[Keep it beefy]

who's zyg, searched for him, and i didn't find anyone

 

[wrj]

K all you gotta do is take EVERYTHING that's in the magic vial and suck it up with that big bad boy syringe then attach the sterile filter and push like hell to get the juice in the sterile vial. No need to coffee filter with A's kit. Good luck and tell your cows I said happy growin!

WRJ

 

[Keep it beefy]

got a new problem now: i can't push the shit through the filter. at least not with 50 or more pounds of pressure. any suggestions?

 

[Zyglamail]

I see where you say you dissolved pellets, but did you heat the solution, that is after you added the oil?

 

[panerai]

Zyg, does one suppose to heat the solution after adding the oil?

 

[Zyglamail]

Zyg, does one suppose to heat the solution after adding the oil?

Most definatly. What happens is the the magic will suspenf the tren as well as a lot of filler. Tren itself is not very soluble in oil so tha magic is needed to suspend it and mix with the oil. As we know if the pellets get warm they get goey and this is where the heat comes in.

After adding oil and swirling, boil water, remove it from burner and place vial with oil, magic and dissolved pellets in water for about 7-10 minutes. What this does is cause the fillers to stick together while in suspension and then they get too large/heavy to suspend and fall out of suspension. This step is what seperates the tren from the filler. It leaves a thick goey layer on the bottom of the vial. Letting the oil sit and cool also allows more filler to fall from suspension. Once cool warm again in same manner above but only for a minute or two and be carefull not to disturb solution, we want to keep crap on the bottom. When warmed it will flow a bit better through the sterile filter.

 

[panerai]

Why you didn't tell me before?

Anyway, I didn't heat the mix of magic solution, pellets and oil, and only used heat (intense, but barely enough to get burn mark, if keep finger in water for a minute) and swirl(almost constant, so in combo with heat pellets were disolved in half an hour) to disolve the pellets.
After adding oil, it did get separated, glue and pretty clear oil. I shaked it vigorously for a while and then all the kaka stick to the walls of the vial.
Then I filtered it.
Did I do it wrong?

 

[Zyglamail]

Did I do it wrong?

Well, it seemed to work didnt it . Anyways, I personally feel the heating is a good way to further sepreate the fillers from the good stuff. The less fillers the easier it is to filter

 

[panerai]

Actually, what you are saying has some application to what I did. I heat up magic solution with pellets in to pretty high degree, and then added oil(room temp) of course, cooled it down somewhat, but the whole thing was still pretty warm, kind of warm-hot.
Yes, it works fine, as well as premade stuff, I've used before.

 

[Keep it beefy]

so what your saying is that i should heat it again, and when i draw it back into the 10cc syringe, i shouldn't pick up the shit on the bottom? how much shit do i leave behind?

 

[Zyglamail]

after adding the oil to the magic containing the dissolved pellets your supposed to heat it to futher seperate fillers. Then let cool. You should have 2 (possibly 3) distinct layers. Draw up the top layer for sure and the middle layer as well if there are three layers. The bottom thick go you can leave behind, because it will just clog your filters and there is virtually no tren in there anyways.

 

[Keep it beefy]

do you suggest reheating, or should i just try to draw it?

 

[Zyglamail]

As long as you boil water and remove from heat when you heat it, you wont hurt it so yes, I would try and heat it again and let it cool and settle. Then try not to disturb it so that when you draw you can avoid the thick crap on the bottom, it will surely clog the filter.