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Fina Experts - Side Effects / Hair??
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Fina is 3 times more androgenic than test so androgenic sides should be, in principle, worse. Those sides include hairloss, aggression, and acne. From personal experience though, I did not find that to be true. I got more sides from test than I did fina; go figure. The only sides I got from fina was night sweats, muscle tightness or cramping, and BIG DAMN MUSCLES. Test, on the other hand, gave me bad acne and hairloss. I didn't really notice any extra aggression from either fina or test.
Fina is the best AS for me. I get lots of lean mass, great strength and pumps with only a few inconvenient sides (night sweats, etc).
Fina is the best AS for me. I get lots of lean mass, great strength and pumps with only a few inconvenient sides (night sweats, etc).
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Night sweats and acne after I'm on for more than 8 wks. I don't break out until then.
water retention??
I went on a Fina cycle a few months ago. I dont know if it is my body chemistry or if others have experienced this problem. But I put on nearly 10 pounds the first week. It had to be all water.
A couple of my buds from the gym...both placed in the arkansas show a couple of weekends ago...they agreed that they get huge water retention.
Anectdotal evidence. But is there anyone else that experiences water retention.
I went on a Fina cycle a few months ago. I dont know if it is my body chemistry or if others have experienced this problem. But I put on nearly 10 pounds the first week. It had to be all water.
A couple of my buds from the gym...both placed in the arkansas show a couple of weekends ago...they agreed that they get huge water retention.
Anectdotal evidence. But is there anyone else that experiences water retention.
anabolic24/7
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I also had day sweats, seemed like walking up stairs and I'd start sweating.
Re: water retention??
Water retention from Fina is rare but not at all terribly uncommon. Like Deca, Fina is a progesterone based molecule that can in some evoke significant estrogenic side effects like edema and gynecomastia. It's progesteronic structure an also sut you down just as throughly as Deca with erections becoming a prolem for some.
thebigbabboon said:
Water retention from Fina is rare but not at all terribly uncommon. Like Deca, Fina is a progesterone based molecule that can in some evoke significant estrogenic side effects like edema and gynecomastia. It's progesteronic structure an also sut you down just as throughly as Deca with erections becoming a prolem for some.
My first cycle was:
weeks 1-3 - fina (50 mg ed)
weeks 4-8 - fina (50 mg ed + test prop (50 mg ed)
weeks 9-11 - test prop (50 mg ed) + nolva (10 mg ed)
weeks 12-13 - clomid therapy
The first three weeks of fina alone, I put on 20 lbs and my strength shot through the roof (my bench went up 50 lbs in like two weeks). It was shocking to see; people started asking questions it was so drastic. No noticeable hairloss or acne but I started to get sensitive nipples.
When I started the test, my gains slowed to a trickle; I developed a raging case of acne and my hairline receded noticeably (after 3 or 4 weeks). I gained a total of 27 lbs on that cycle and 20 of those lbs were gained in the first three weeks of fina alone. Very little water weight if any. I kept all of that until my shoulders flared up (old injury) and forced me out of the gym for 6 weeks. Even then, I only dropped about 15 lbs not even working out for 6 weeks (though I did lose a lot of upper body strength). After I was able to return to the gym, I regained about 5 lbs naturally over about 6 months of hard work and diet so I was sitting at about +17 lbs overall. Because of my lack of estrogen protection during that cycle, I developed a slight case of gyno some 5 weeks after stopping my cycle. I took nolva at 20 mg ed for about three months to entirely cure the problem; no gyno, no sensitive nipps.
I am currently on my second cycle. I figured I would give test another chance because it seemed weird to me that it would give me more sides than fina.
weeks 1-9: test prop (75 mg ed)
weeks 1-4: dbol (30 mg ed)
weeks 5-8: dbol (35 mg ed)
weeks 2.5 - 11: fina (50 mg ed)
weeks 12-13: clomid therapy + 20 mg nolva ed
weeks 1-26: GH (4 IU's ed)
It's not as complicated as it looks. It's basically a test, dbol, fina cycle. The GH was given to me by a good friend ( I know I am a lucky dog) or I wouldn't be using it. I can't afford to buy it.
I used arimadex for the first 6 weeks at 0.5 mg ed. After that, I ran out of Adex so I will use nolvadex at 20 mg ed for the rest of the cycle.
I only gained about 5 lbs in that first 2.5 weeks of test prop and dbol. am about 6.5 weeks in right now. I am up 15.5 lbs so far with little or no water retention. Strength is way up. I think I have dropped a percentage point or two of BF thanks to the GH. The acne has returned however. It came back after only two weeks of test prop with no added fina so I know it's the test (could be the dbol I guess). I made up some 3% spironolactone cream for my hair and I apply it to my hairline after I wash my hair. It seems to help but I am still losing a little hair. Nothing like last time though. The night sweats and muscle cramps a la fina have returned as well.
I think I have learned my lesson. Test just isn't the best AS for me. If I run it in the future, it will be at very low dosages just to counteract the loss of labido on fina.
weeks 1-3 - fina (50 mg ed)
weeks 4-8 - fina (50 mg ed + test prop (50 mg ed)
weeks 9-11 - test prop (50 mg ed) + nolva (10 mg ed)
weeks 12-13 - clomid therapy
The first three weeks of fina alone, I put on 20 lbs and my strength shot through the roof (my bench went up 50 lbs in like two weeks). It was shocking to see; people started asking questions it was so drastic. No noticeable hairloss or acne but I started to get sensitive nipples.
When I started the test, my gains slowed to a trickle; I developed a raging case of acne and my hairline receded noticeably (after 3 or 4 weeks). I gained a total of 27 lbs on that cycle and 20 of those lbs were gained in the first three weeks of fina alone. Very little water weight if any. I kept all of that until my shoulders flared up (old injury) and forced me out of the gym for 6 weeks. Even then, I only dropped about 15 lbs not even working out for 6 weeks (though I did lose a lot of upper body strength). After I was able to return to the gym, I regained about 5 lbs naturally over about 6 months of hard work and diet so I was sitting at about +17 lbs overall. Because of my lack of estrogen protection during that cycle, I developed a slight case of gyno some 5 weeks after stopping my cycle. I took nolva at 20 mg ed for about three months to entirely cure the problem; no gyno, no sensitive nipps.
I am currently on my second cycle. I figured I would give test another chance because it seemed weird to me that it would give me more sides than fina.
weeks 1-9: test prop (75 mg ed)
weeks 1-4: dbol (30 mg ed)
weeks 5-8: dbol (35 mg ed)
weeks 2.5 - 11: fina (50 mg ed)
weeks 12-13: clomid therapy + 20 mg nolva ed
weeks 1-26: GH (4 IU's ed)
It's not as complicated as it looks. It's basically a test, dbol, fina cycle. The GH was given to me by a good friend ( I know I am a lucky dog) or I wouldn't be using it. I can't afford to buy it.
I used arimadex for the first 6 weeks at 0.5 mg ed. After that, I ran out of Adex so I will use nolvadex at 20 mg ed for the rest of the cycle.
I only gained about 5 lbs in that first 2.5 weeks of test prop and dbol. am about 6.5 weeks in right now. I am up 15.5 lbs so far with little or no water retention. Strength is way up. I think I have dropped a percentage point or two of BF thanks to the GH. The acne has returned however. It came back after only two weeks of test prop with no added fina so I know it's the test (could be the dbol I guess). I made up some 3% spironolactone cream for my hair and I apply it to my hairline after I wash my hair. It seems to help but I am still losing a little hair. Nothing like last time though. The night sweats and muscle cramps a la fina have returned as well.
I think I have learned my lesson. Test just isn't the best AS for me. If I run it in the future, it will be at very low dosages just to counteract the loss of labido on fina.
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