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strong island
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Have been doing fina for 6 weeks and never had this problem till today.
What the exact cause for this?
What the exact cause for this?
Fina Cough
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strong island
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I just thought it was strange that I hadn't experienced before in six weeks.
Today I am eating 900 grams or carbs...the most I have eaten in months. Maybe the high blood sugar and/or insulin has something to do with it.
Today I am eating 900 grams or carbs...the most I have eaten in months. Maybe the high blood sugar and/or insulin has something to do with it.
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acneman
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prevailing theory ive heard is alergic reaction and you can inject things with no prob and then get an alergy so just be careful i havent heard of anyone getting seriously ill ....YET.
sicklydiesel
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dont worry ..same shit happened to me a few weeks ago...never ever happened before with fina, than all the sudden..im coughing like im dying for a few minutes.
It's some of the solution getting into a vein. That's why you typically get a weird taste as well since it reaches your lungs pretty quick.
Nothing to be overly concerned about.
Nothing to be overly concerned about.
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acneman
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so txlonghorn if you aspirate this will eliminate this or will the solution get in from a proper injection also
Mako the Shark
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too dangerous to not aspirate properly every time, but i don't doubt there could be some spillage from the injection site into the path the needle took which could go through some blood vessels.
strong island
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I am near the bottom of the bottle and I did smell a lot of alcohol prior to the cough.
chronicx357
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someone posted if you inject slower it might help eliminate this problem
Punschkrapfen
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Hum Reprod 1995 Apr;10(4):862-5 Related Articles, Books, LinkOut
Tolerability of intramuscular injections of testosterone ester in oil vehicle.
Mackey MA, Conway AJ, Handelsman DJ.
Andrology Unit, Royal Prince Alfred Hospital, Sydney NSW, Australia.
We undertook a prospective survey of the tolerability of deep i.m. injections of testosterone enanthate in a castor oil vehicle, the most widely used form of androgen replacement therapy. Over a period of 8 months, 26 men received 551 weekly injections into the gluteal, deltoid or thigh muscle and side-effects were recorded immediately and 1 week after each injection by the same nurse using a standardized questionnaire. Most injections caused no complaints [389/551, 70.6% (95% confidence interval 66.6-74.4%)] but minor local side-effects, mostly pain and bleeding, were common [162/551, 29.4% (25.6-33.4%)]; no serious side-effects were observed. Considering all side-effects, the gluteal site had fewer complaints and was less prone to bleeding but was painful more often than deltoid or thigh injection sites. The laterality of injection at any site had no significant effect on side-effects. The only systemic side-effect was episodes of sudden-onset, non-productive cough associated with faintness following eight injections [1.5% (0.6-2.9%)] which we speculate may have been due to pulmonary oil microembolism. We conclude that, when administered by an experienced nurse, deep i.m. injection of testosterone enanthate in a castor oil vehicle is generally safe and well tolerated but causes relatively frequent minor side-effects, including pain and bleeding. An improved depot form of testosterone would be highly desirable for androgen replacement therapy and hormonal male contraception.
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I have searched this board all over but "cough" is almost always associated with tren injections. And in my own experience i did some 40 injections with deca and test and never had a problem, but on my 2nd fina shot, i got the cough and some mild faintness. But in this study, they only used test enanthate and also experienced this side in rare cases. So? it might not be the fina itself but maybe the solution has the ability to penetrate veins more easily and therefore causes lung embolism. Isnt there a DMSO form of application with fina that is not possible with other AS? Are tren molecules smaller?
Tolerability of intramuscular injections of testosterone ester in oil vehicle.
Mackey MA, Conway AJ, Handelsman DJ.
Andrology Unit, Royal Prince Alfred Hospital, Sydney NSW, Australia.
We undertook a prospective survey of the tolerability of deep i.m. injections of testosterone enanthate in a castor oil vehicle, the most widely used form of androgen replacement therapy. Over a period of 8 months, 26 men received 551 weekly injections into the gluteal, deltoid or thigh muscle and side-effects were recorded immediately and 1 week after each injection by the same nurse using a standardized questionnaire. Most injections caused no complaints [389/551, 70.6% (95% confidence interval 66.6-74.4%)] but minor local side-effects, mostly pain and bleeding, were common [162/551, 29.4% (25.6-33.4%)]; no serious side-effects were observed. Considering all side-effects, the gluteal site had fewer complaints and was less prone to bleeding but was painful more often than deltoid or thigh injection sites. The laterality of injection at any site had no significant effect on side-effects. The only systemic side-effect was episodes of sudden-onset, non-productive cough associated with faintness following eight injections [1.5% (0.6-2.9%)] which we speculate may have been due to pulmonary oil microembolism. We conclude that, when administered by an experienced nurse, deep i.m. injection of testosterone enanthate in a castor oil vehicle is generally safe and well tolerated but causes relatively frequent minor side-effects, including pain and bleeding. An improved depot form of testosterone would be highly desirable for androgen replacement therapy and hormonal male contraception.
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I have searched this board all over but "cough" is almost always associated with tren injections. And in my own experience i did some 40 injections with deca and test and never had a problem, but on my 2nd fina shot, i got the cough and some mild faintness. But in this study, they only used test enanthate and also experienced this side in rare cases. So? it might not be the fina itself but maybe the solution has the ability to penetrate veins more easily and therefore causes lung embolism. Isnt there a DMSO form of application with fina that is not possible with other AS? Are tren molecules smaller?
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acneman
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wow Punschkrapfen
great reference guess what
karma for you
great reference guess what
karma for you
This is really wierd you guys are talking about this. This morning I inject fina and winstrol and I thought I was about to die. My wife was like are you ok and I could hardly say I was ok. I felt like I was going to throw up and I was coughing none stop for about minute. I had a really bad taste in my mouth.
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basskiller
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I have a problem with that... BA is in a lot of juice and I don't get the coughs for them.seeker02 said:
It has to be the tren.
basskiller said:
People do occasionally get a cough from other gear, it is just a lot less common. Here is the link to Animal's thread anyway:
http://animalkits.be/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=1707&forum=3&1
That's his theory and you can always take it with a grain salt.
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basskiller
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Yea, I seen his thread and heard his theory, and yes people do get the coughs from other gear, but very few as opposed to the number of people that get it from tren.seeker02 said:
Now it may have to do with the combination of the two tren and the BA. But I don't believe it's just from the BA.
It would be nice to talk with him about it if I didn't think it would become as so many others that disagree with him.
Like How did he come up with 76mgs/ml... it's funny that that mg per ml was exactly what Parbolon was..
I like to know how he came up with the figure for the loss factor, cause it's high.
