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Fina Concentration Question

Mr. Black

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I am planning on doing a 6 week fina cycle 75mged and am getting ready to do some baking...My question is this, with a 4g f-kit and 4000mg of component-h...what concentration will this yield in my final 40 ml solution? Any input would be appreciated. Thanks.
 
It depends on the number of ml in your 4g kit. If the kit has 50ml / 4000mg (2carts)= approx 80mg per ml. I am sure if I am wrong someone will let you know. If your 4g kit has 40ml then it would be 40ml/4000mg = approx 100mg per ml. More experienced home brewers feel free to correct me.
 
Assuming that you are using one belt consisting of 20 doses of Component TH and each dose contains 200 mg of tren. then you would have 4000 mg of tren. 4000 mg of tren = 4 g of tren. You said you have a 4 g f-kit. Normally f-kits are set up for a concentration of 75 mg/ml. Therefore, using 4 g of tren with a 4 g f-kit should yield 75 mg/ml so you shoot 1 ml ED. Didn't you order the instructions with your kit?
 
Depends on where you get your kit from. Most sell for a final concentration of 75mg/ml. I know of one who sells their kit with a final concentration of 100mg/ml. They do not tell you that though.

Here is a general recipe for a 4G:

4000mg of pellets take up 4ml
Bottle 1: 10ml of BB/BA
Bottle 2: 41ml of X oil

Some kits will have more/less oil or more/less disolving solution. This will throw off the final concentration. Also, prefiltering can throw off the final concentration
 
I have just ordered my kit so I have been unable to read any available instructions. The product also states that the final mix is 100mg/ml while producing 40 ml as the final product. Somehow i just thought 100mg/ml seemed to high for Fina. Thanks guys I appreciate your help.
 
Here is the chart I use.
35ml = 110mg/ml
36ml = 108mg/ml
37ml = 104mg/ml
38ml = 102mg/ml
39ml = 99mg/ml
40ml = 97mg/ml
41ml = 95mg/ml
42ml = 92mg/ml
43ml = 90mg/ml
44ml = 88mg/ml
45ml = 86mg/ml
46ml = 84mg/ml
47ml = 82mg/ml
48ml = 80mg/ml
49ml = 79mg/ml
50ml = 77mg/ml

TAPOUTM
 
tapoutm said:
Here is the chart I use.
35ml = 110mg/ml
36ml = 108mg/ml
37ml = 104mg/ml
38ml = 102mg/ml
39ml = 99mg/ml
40ml = 97mg/ml
41ml = 95mg/ml
42ml = 92mg/ml
43ml = 90mg/ml
44ml = 88mg/ml
45ml = 86mg/ml
46ml = 84mg/ml
47ml = 82mg/ml
48ml = 80mg/ml
49ml = 79mg/ml
50ml = 77mg/ml

TAPOUTM

Good add.

Man, I took my first shot of this fina run last night. I was jittery all last night, could feel it already. This shit always amazes me. Its IM and you feel it almost immediately. Its very exciting and very scary at the same time how strong this stuff is.
 
Mr. Black
Also, Is that chart based using a total of 4000mg component t-h?

4000mg of Component TH = 4000mg of tren. = 4 g of tren.

The chart is for 4 grams. All you have to do is divide the number of miligrams of tren by the volume of oil + solvent to equal mg/ml final concentration.
 
madhacker said:
Tapout:

What is that ml on the left? Is that Oil + Solvent + Pellets?

Thanks

Go Tito

Yes this is for everything. When you get comlpetly finished with all of the conversion and filtering check how much tren you have say you have 43ml left, then you would have 90mg/ per ml. This chart is for a 4 gram kit With a 3% loss of product in the conversion If you do everything correctly the Oil (mls) to mg strength would be as the chart said........TAPOUTM
 
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Thanks for the quick responses guys I have been busy today. Hope this helps you, and good luck on making your TREN. Take your time and do it right and you will be very happy with the results........TAPOUTM. ps. keep us posted on how it turned out.
 
Ok since there are a ton of bro's with expereince with Tren. I'll put my question here.

I hear bro's say tren leaves a metallic taste in your mouth. I'm curious if it's just me, but I honestly think that taste is the glue from the pellets. Next time you get that taste, take an envelope that you would put mail in and lick it, I guarantee it's the exact same taste.

Juice21
 
sh4dowf4lcon said:
Dude, I never tasted this metallic glue taste to which you refer. Maybe you need to brush your teeth Juice2121? J/K

Haha that's a nice guess but my hygiene is anything but lacking. In all seriousness though I get a weird taste shortly after injecting that compares to the taste of licking an envelope. It also smells the same as when you open the carts. It's a very strong odor. I'm just curious what exactly it is. Considering I don't think glue would be something your body would like to have injected in it 7 days a week.

Juice21
 
Juice2121 said:


Haha that's a nice guess but my hygiene is anything but lacking. In all seriousness though I get a weird taste shortly after injecting that compares to the taste of licking an envelope. It also smells the same as when you open the carts. It's a very strong odor. I'm just curious what exactly it is. Considering I don't think glue would be something your body would like to have injected in it 7 days a week.

Juice21

Okay, seriously, I have never experienced this taste you described. No feedback on that I am afraid.
 
There is no glue in Fina or TH or any pellets.
The pellet process is the same as for tablets they get compressed.
There is a distinct odor to the pellets and whether it is from the binders or coloring I don't know.
The solvents dissolve some of the binders and they get through the sterile filter.
Benzyl Benzoate is listed as a solvent for Cellulose Acetate (Check the Merck Index)-the main ingredient in the binders.
Therefore some of the taste gets through and some tren is rapidly absorbed from the depot at injection by the body due to the solvent carrying it out to the blood stream...for those in the know that's what causes the coughing fits in some as well as the rush and flush....
 
Look, this is very easy to do. Very basic math. Take your total mg X 90% or .9 (assume a 10% loss during the filtration process) then divid this number by the total ml of the final soultion.

In your case: (4000mg X .9)/40 ml = 90 mg/ml
 
??? If you get a list of ingrediants from either manufacturer of trenbolone acetate implants there are only 3 ingrediants. Trenbolone acetate, celluse, yellow no. 5. Glue and binders? This is a myth.
 
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