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Fina and the kidney damage, lets update the info

serge

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Trenbolone Acetate (Finaject)


Description
by Bill Roberts

"While Finaject itself is no longer available, in some cases injectable preparations from Finaplix have been made. The substance is the same: trenbolone acetate.

Trenbolone is a steroid having the advantages of undergoing no adverse metabolism, not being affected by aromatase or 5alpha-reductase; of being very potent Class I steroid binding well to the androgen receptor; and having a short half life, probably no more than a day or two though I don't believe this has been measured. Fifty milligrams per day is a good dosing for someone on his first cycle or someone who is as yet less than, say, 20 pounds over his natural limit; while 100 mg/day may be preferred by the more advanced user who has already gained more than this. These doses are assuming that trenbolone is the only Class I steroid being use. There really is no need to stack another -- testosterone being the only sensible exception -- but if another is stacked then the amount of trenbolone may be reduced accordingly.

There is no evidence in the literature, nor I think practical evidence, that trenbolone acetate has a "special role" in burning fat. Rather, it is an extraordinarily potent AAS, being about three times as effective per milligram as testosterone esters. This seems to apply only to Class I activity, however. To obtain good anabolism from non-AR-mediated mechanisms, a Class II steroid such as Dianabol or Anadrol should be stacked.

There used to be a myth that trenbolone was "hard on the kidneys." I have found no indication in the scientific literature of particular kidney toxicity with trenbolone. I know a number of users, at doses of 50-100 mg/day, who have experienced no problems. It seems to me that the claims that have been made were from athletes stacking an incredible amount of drugs, and how the blame could have fairly been laid at trenbolone (actually at Parabolan, not trenbolone acetate) is not clear.

It is also not clear that trenbolone results in any greater degree of increased aggression for a given amount of anabolic effect than testosterone itself does, despite another myth to that effect. The increase in aggressive tendency -- which does not mean the act of aggression -- is moderate and entirely controllable, if noticeable at all."
 
The only abstracts I have seen that point out any sort of kidney/liver damage were done on rats and the dose was INCREDIBLY high. If I remember correctly the dose that was given to the rats would have equated to me taking a dose of over 3800mg's
 
zyg, thats exactly my point, tren dose not have any unique structural differences then other oil based injectibles, plus its a nandrolone derivative, so why would it exhibit all additional kidney damage?

If i am wrong, someone please do point it out, but back your claims, and dont say you read it in Anabolic Review
 
Good post serge and bump for any other info.
i have use doses of 200 mg on 2nd day3 times a week no kidney liver damage so fare :arty:
 
I've done Fina for 26 weeks and I haven't had any problems.

I just got my first Fina cough yesterday after the 12th week
of my current 26-week cycle. It was frigging strange.

Fonz
 
serge said:
could you taste the tren when you cough, or is it just me?

I think, what we taste, is not Tren, but BA. Most of the time, I taste it, even if I don't get cough.
Also, I notice, that if I inject very, very slow, I don't get any coughing.
 
Here is a little tidbit I found in a doc from the manufacturer redarding toxicity, check out these dosages.

Oral LD50: (rat) :>5000 mg/kg (Trenbolone Acetate)
Oral LD50: (mouse) : 2700 mg/kg (Trenbolone Acetate)
 
Does anyone know why users cough? Is it because of the tren or some other impurity? I ask because someone said it's a derivative of deca. Deca doesn't give a cough. Maybe deca and fina are worlds apart and possibly cause kidney/liver damage.
I'm no vet but that's my .02cents
 
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