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bud managed 16 victories
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I agree,germany lost the war at stalingrad,they lost thier chance to win at moscow dec'41redguru said:
as for the orginal argument
I'm not so impressed with these modern era USAF craft as there is no competition.period
there are no fights
Walter Krupinski, known as "Graf Punski" or "Count Punski" in the Jagdwaffe (fighter-pursuit force), was a swashbuckling fly-boy with a phenomenal record of 197 aerial victories. Krupinski not only never lost a wingman, but also had the ability to help beginners develop to their fullest potential. He joined the Luftwaffe in 1939 as a student in the 11th Flying Training Regiment. He first served with the Jagderganzungsgruppe JG 52, a combat replacement unit, flying the Messerschmitt Me 109, in October 1940. By the end of 1941, he had earned the Iron Cross 1st class after his seventh victory and was awarded the German Cross in Gold and the Knight's Cross one year later after scoring over 53 aerial victories. Krupinski taught the aerial art of closing with the enemy aircraft until "it filled the windscreen" before firing. It was during this time that the young Erich Hartmann was assigned as Krupinski's wingman. The young and overly enthusiastic Hartmann was seriously struggling in his first attempts at aerial combat, resulting in severe reprimands by the group commander. However, under Krupinski's expert tutelage, Hartmann mastered the art of aerial combat and went on to become the world's top-scoring fighter pilot with 352 victories. While still a first lieutenant, Krupinski was selected as Squadron Commander of 7./JG 52 in the spring 1943. On 5 July of the same year, he scored victories 80 to 90--11 in one day!
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MobyGames Auto-Generated Summary *:redguru said:
Walter Krupinski was credited on a game in 1991. His career probably spans more years than those displayed since these dates are based on the credits documented in MobyGames (which are incomplete). Walter Krupinski has been credited with the roles Box & Content. Walter Krupinski has been credited on games developed by the following companies: LucasArts. This does not imply employment by these companies.
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Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe (1991),
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850 aerial combats!
Erich Hartmann is the highest scoring air ace in history.
I doubt if his tally will ever be beaten.
He worried the communist Russians so much, they (Stalin) offered a 50,000 rouble reward on him.
But this didn't stop Hartmann who continued to notch up his air wins.
Victories: 352 total, seven P-51s over Rumania( Ploesti), all others Eastern Front.
Sorties: 1,400 total, 850 aerial combats
Shot Down: 16 times.
He flew a Messerschmitt Me109 fighter.
His arial victories are confirmed.
You can get more information about his life and war time experiences at:
http://www.virtualpilots.fi/hist/WW2History-ErichHartmann.html
Hartmann shot down the equivalent of almost 15 Allied squadrons in aerial combat.
Surrendering to the Americans at Pisek at the close of the war in 1945 , Hartmann was turned over to the Russians by the U.S. authorities. Once the Soviets realized who they had as a prisoner, he was singled out for especially brutal treatment, including long periods of solitary confinement in total darkness. Using every persuasive device known, the Russians could not convert Hartmann to Communism, and get him to work for the Soviet airforce.
After a mock-up war-crime trial Hartmann was held in prison for ten years, far longer than the other POW's.
Illegally detained, it was only after Chancellor Adenauer of W. Germany personally visited Moscow in 1955 and arranged for his release that a gaunt and haggard Erich Hartmann was released by his captors, broken in body but not in spirit.
Hartmann regained his health and joined the new West German Air Force in 1959, becoming Kommodore of JG 71, the new Richthofen Geschwader based at Fliegerhorst Ahlhorn in Oldenberg. JG 71 was the first of the new Geschwadern formed by the Federal Republic's air force.
Hartmann is quoted as saying:
Of all my accomplishments I may have achieved during the war, I am proudest of the fact that I never lost a wingman
http://www.virtualpilots.fi/hist/WW2History-ErichHartmann.html
Erich Hartmann is the highest scoring air ace in history.
I doubt if his tally will ever be beaten.
He worried the communist Russians so much, they (Stalin) offered a 50,000 rouble reward on him.
But this didn't stop Hartmann who continued to notch up his air wins.
Victories: 352 total, seven P-51s over Rumania( Ploesti), all others Eastern Front.
Sorties: 1,400 total, 850 aerial combats
Shot Down: 16 times.
He flew a Messerschmitt Me109 fighter.
His arial victories are confirmed.
You can get more information about his life and war time experiences at:
http://www.virtualpilots.fi/hist/WW2History-ErichHartmann.html
Hartmann shot down the equivalent of almost 15 Allied squadrons in aerial combat.
Surrendering to the Americans at Pisek at the close of the war in 1945 , Hartmann was turned over to the Russians by the U.S. authorities. Once the Soviets realized who they had as a prisoner, he was singled out for especially brutal treatment, including long periods of solitary confinement in total darkness. Using every persuasive device known, the Russians could not convert Hartmann to Communism, and get him to work for the Soviet airforce.
After a mock-up war-crime trial Hartmann was held in prison for ten years, far longer than the other POW's.
Illegally detained, it was only after Chancellor Adenauer of W. Germany personally visited Moscow in 1955 and arranged for his release that a gaunt and haggard Erich Hartmann was released by his captors, broken in body but not in spirit.
Hartmann regained his health and joined the new West German Air Force in 1959, becoming Kommodore of JG 71, the new Richthofen Geschwader based at Fliegerhorst Ahlhorn in Oldenberg. JG 71 was the first of the new Geschwadern formed by the Federal Republic's air force.
Hartmann is quoted as saying:
Of all my accomplishments I may have achieved during the war, I am proudest of the fact that I never lost a wingman
http://www.virtualpilots.fi/hist/WW2History-ErichHartmann.html
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The only way I see a major aerial dogfight in the near future is if China comes across the Strait of Formosa. Taipei has thier Indiginous Defense Fighter up and a slew of F16's. I did qualification testing and technology transfer on parts of the Tien-Chien (Sky-Sword) II missile which is the primary air-to-air missile for the IDF
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Hans Joachim Marseille (158 kills)
In one combat mission Marseille attacked a formation of 16 P-40s all by himself and had shot down 6 P-40s after 11 minutes by the time he had to return to base because of low fuel and ammunition. this was only one of numerous occasions where Marseille used his expert flying. Marseilles life was sadly cut short on a fighter sweep over British territory. As his flight was returning to base his engine caught fire and had to bail, as he did he was hit in the chest by the rudder of his Bf-109. on his grave his comrades put wrote his name and rank, and put one word undefeated
In one combat mission Marseille attacked a formation of 16 P-40s all by himself and had shot down 6 P-40s after 11 minutes by the time he had to return to base because of low fuel and ammunition. this was only one of numerous occasions where Marseille used his expert flying. Marseilles life was sadly cut short on a fighter sweep over British territory. As his flight was returning to base his engine caught fire and had to bail, as he did he was hit in the chest by the rudder of his Bf-109. on his grave his comrades put wrote his name and rank, and put one word undefeated
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