Feedback on Cycle

[TJ315]

I have done alot of searching and have found a cycle which seems appealing:

20mg Dbol ED weeks 1-4
30mg Winny weeks 1-4
50mg Winny weeks 5-6
Clomid Therapy weeks 7-10 and on if need be
Liquidex weeks .25-.50mg ED (depending on SE) weeks 1-10
ALA 1G ED
Milk Thistle ED
Multivitamin 1 per day
Vitamin C 2G/day

I know these are 2ea 17AA's, but realistically there is 50mgs worth going through system at any given time.

Will this hardening/cutting cycle be self defeating with the 20mgs of DBOL or will the D help help keep/make size while still hardening with the winny?

I will be running 3000 Calories per day with no more than around 100g of carbs, HIT training, & 3-4 cardio sessions per week @ no more than 30 mins.

 

[SuKY_GeNeTiCs]

Afraid of needles?

 

[British Bulldog]

I dont think you will maintain gains from dianabol. Its best if you run some deca and test alongside the d-bol and leave winstrol to the end of cycle.

Why do you want to use only winstrol and d-bol? Also why so short?

 

[Spidey]

I dont think you will maintain gains from dianabol. Its best if you run some deca and test alongside the d-bol and leave winstrol to the end of cycle.

Why do you want to use only winstrol and d-bol? Also why so short?

He's probably worried about stacking two 17-alkylated AAS for too long and justifiably so. You have only one liver.

Sounds like he doesn't like needles and is trying to make a oral only cycle.

If you are only wanting to cut up, why not just do the winny alone. It is, afterall, an ANABOLIC steroid and should keep you from loosing muscle if your diet is good. Gains from winny are generally easier to keep too from what I've read. Just my 0.02.

-Spidey

 

[TJ315]

Why actually... yes!

I am afraid of needles right now. I can't take any chances, I mean any chances (absesses,infections,etc) since I'm in a specific gov't job and I dont trust the gov't doctors

Coming off of a Finasol cycle and would like to go from 225lbs 9% to 220-225 6%.

The only reason I didn't go winny only is I wanted a little size as well. From what I have read, the winny will harden my dbol gains. This will be my second cycle. Hope you guys can help

Thanks

 

[Greek Freak]

Why actually... yes!

I am afraid of needles right now. I can't take any chances, I mean any chances (absesses,infections,etc) since I'm in a specific gov't job and I dont trust the gov't doctors

Coming off of a Finasol cycle and would like to go from 225lbs 9% to 220-225 6%.

The only reason I didn't go winny only is I wanted a little size as well. From what I have read, the winny will harden my dbol gains. This will be my second cycle. Hope you guys can help

Thanks

If you wont use needles then I would rethink this cycle. Dont expect to make any serious/keepable gains without using injectables. I would just go with something safe and conservative because all your gonna do is mess up your liver trying to use only orals cycle after cycle. Just use some anavar(or you could do a short winny only cycle..I am talking 4 wks)until you realize that there really isnt that much risk associated with injections as long as you take the proper precautions.

 

[THE BOUNCER]

Why actually... yes!

I am afraid of needles right now. I can't take any chances, I mean any chances (absesses,infections,etc) since I'm in a specific gov't job and I dont trust the gov't doctors

Coming off of a Finasol cycle and would like to go from 225lbs 9% to 220-225 6%.

The only reason I didn't go winny only is I wanted a little size as well. From what I have read, the winny will harden my dbol gains. This will be my second cycle. Hope you guys can help

Thanks

17aa orals are much more dangerous than most injectables.

 

[TJ315]

Bouncer

I understand that possibility of developing liver complications; I can at least come up with an excuse though. However, being thrown in jail for having a abcess from steroids is more dangerous; (especially to my future as an employee).

Geek Freak- I will take your advice and only run the winny or anavar with the rest of the ancillaries. I won't be in this job much longer and I already have decent size/strength.

Thanks

 

[Greek Freak]

If your that afraid of an abcess then just make sure you aspirate, use sterile syringe/needles and I would go with some euro/human grade gear because that is normally cleaner. Just as bouncer said, 17aa are more dangerous than a lot of injectables.