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Father Versus Son

KidnKorner

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Hello all,

I am really becoming infuriated with my father! It's quite obvious who has the knowledge on nutrition, exercise, and overall fitness. He continuously compares his 54 year old body and his experiences to my 30 year old body.

I cook, prepare, and portion out my meals in advance. I am trying to accomplish a goal here, but my father seems to disagree with me and we end up butting heads a lot! :argue: This is driving me up the wall. When i portion out my food I weigh and measure everything and place them into polly bags rolled up and placed into a large storage container. What i had in the refrigerator (3 days worth) did appear to be a lot of food.

It is now day 3 and it's nearly gone. We are sharing the same home, and we are building a business in Kuwait together. So I have to rely on him for money to purchase more food. I notify him that I need more. He says "you have food," and I say "yeah that’s enough for 3 days," he then says "that is enough to last a whole week for me," my reply was "I am attempting to accomplish a goal," he then replies "I wont touch that." I am really sick of this BS, and it makes me just to want to quit all together.

He says from time to time, "when I want to lose weight I just stop eating, and I don't need any exercise," mind you he is obese, and losing weight to him is enough to make his pants fit looser again. I tell him you lose mostly water and muscle, and kill your metabolism. He says if that were true I would have no muscle at all. I tell him the stuff we already know, such as the effects of starvation on metabolism, building lean muscle to increase it, etc. He is a very frugal person, and I even showed him by costing out and analyzing my food requirements, his come back was "you see if you ate half that, do you know how much you'd be saving?"

This man eats a quart of Baskin Robbins a week, uses heavy whipping cream in his coffee, along with 2 table spoons of sugar every morning. He eats one time a day, and it’s usually some high fat, high carb fast food concoction, has more sour cream and butter in his baked potato than there is actually potato. His approach is, "I eat once a day so I can eat the food that I like and not have to worry about it, you should do like me and you won't have a weight problem."

What can I do short of quitting and going back to the states? I am at my wits end! :mad: :fistfullo:

@ 6 meals per day
My per meal cost is 62 cents
My meals per day cost is $3.72
My meals per week are $26.04
My meals per month are $111.6
Maybe $150 if you add my water, skim milk, olive oil and spices in.
 
Tell him that you are a grown man and you don't need his opinions or advice on how to eat. Simple as that.
 
Sounds like a seriously difficult situation. But the bottom line is......what is more important to YOU?....Helping w/ the business....or achieving your physical goals? Go for what is truely more important to you......the only opinion that matters in this case is yours!
 
KidnKorner said:
Hello all,

I am really becoming infuriated with my father! It's quite obvious who has the knowledge on nutrition, exercise, and overall fitness. He continuously compares his 54 year old body and his experiences to my 30 year old body.

I cook, prepare, and portion out my meals in advance. I am trying to accomplish a goal here, but my father seems to disagree with me and we end up butting heads a lot! :argue: This is driving me up the wall. When i portion out my food I weigh and measure everything and place them into polly bags rolled up and placed into a large storage container. What i had in the refrigerator (3 days worth) did appear to be a lot of food.

It is now day 3 and it's nearly gone. We are sharing the same home, and we are building a business in Kuwait together. So I have to rely on him for money to purchase more food. I notify him that I need more. He says "you have food," and I say "yeah that’s enough for 3 days," he then says "that is enough to last a whole week for me," my reply was "I am attempting to accomplish a goal," he then replies "I wont touch that." I am really sick of this BS, and it makes me just to want to quit all together.

He says from time to time, "when I want to lose weight I just stop eating, and I don't need any exercise," mind you he is obese, and losing weight to him is enough to make his pants fit looser again. I tell him you lose mostly water and muscle, and kill your metabolism. He says if that were true I would have no muscle at all. I tell him the stuff we already know, such as the effects of starvation on metabolism, building lean muscle to increase it, etc. He is a very frugal person, and I even showed him by costing out and analyzing my food requirements, his come back was "you see if you ate half that, do you know how much you'd be saving?"

This man eats a quart of Baskin Robbins a week, uses heavy whipping cream in his coffee, along with 2 table spoons of sugar every morning. He eats one time a day, and it’s usually some high fat, high carb fast food concoction, has more sour cream and butter in his baked potato than there is actually potato. His approach is, "I eat once a day so I can eat the food that I like and not have to worry about it, you should do like me and you won't have a weight problem."

What can I do short of quitting and going back to the states? I am at my wits end! :mad: :fistfullo:

@ 6 meals per day
My per meal cost is 62 cents
My meals per day cost is $3.72
My meals per week are $26.04
My meals per month are $111.6
Maybe $150 if you add my water, skim milk, olive oil and spices in.

See my post on C&C about father isssues...
 
sublime35 said:
Tell him that you are a grown man and you don't need his opinions or advice on how to eat. Simple as that.

Agreed.

I doubt trying to educate him on why you eat the way you do will help.

My parents have health issues and they get on my case about lifting (girls aren't suppose to squat 115lbs :rolleyes: ) and not eating right.
I had to do the same thing with my mother (in a respectful way, of course). She thinks I became an anorexic since following this lifestyle because of my weight loss. I'm 135lbs/21% bf . . . far from anorexic.
 
Many older folks have "dark ages" perceptions about food and exercises. This can be a tough nut to crack, may even be impossible. Keep your head up, keep doing what you know is right.

It is going to be a tough call between your passion for lifting/healthy lifestyle and business issues.

Sounds like it sadly may come down to priorities for you. :(
 
Many people don't understand what it takes to look a certain way. Takes tons of discipline and prep work. Keep doing what your are doing and try to get as much money for food from him as you can. I applaud you on that. My question is how do you make a meal on $0.62 cents a per meal. Each meal I prep I think works out to around $3-4. I know even with the exchange rate my cost is way more than yours LOL. I am just wondering you have any tips for me to cut my costs on food.
 
Thanks everybody! I appreciate the encouragement. It's just finally when I have the means and time to begin a life long dream, I always have something up against me to make it difficult. Only this time around it's my fathers frugal negative attitude, and blind knowledge.


bigazn said:
My question is how do you make a meal on $0.62 cents a per meal. Each meal I prep I think works out to around $3-4

5 kilo(11.02311 LB) bag of brown rice is $8.46 USD
900 gram(1.98416 lb) of green giant frozen mixed vegetables $2.82 USD
2.5 kilo(5.51156 lb) of frozen skinless boneless chicken breast $10.09

servings
3 oz chicken
3/4 cup brown rice
3/4 cup frozen mixed vegatables

I eat the same thing 6 times a day 6 times a week, then I have a cheat day.
 
KidnKorner said:
servings
3 oz chicken
3/4 cup brown rice
3/4 cup frozen mixed vegatables

I eat the same thing 6 times a day 6 times a week, then I have a cheat day.

Holy crap, you are really dedicated! I like to cook 4-5 lb. roasts of turkey breast, lean pork loins, and sometimes tri-tip, and eat them for a couple of days and I get sick of them towards the end! I don't know how you can eat the exact same thing, 6 times a day, 6 days a week. Serious props to you!

I'm sorry to hear that your father makes things so difficult for you. It is hard for some people to understand what we do, and that there is a sound scientific basis for it. Coming from an Asian household, my mom would always get on my case about not eating rice when I lived at home for a while... but then she just accepted what I was doing and actually cooked my meals to accomodate my needs. That was awesome! :p (sorry, telling you that probably didn't help with your frustration) And yeah, now she's always telling me I need to stop losing weight, like I have some kind of eating disorder.

As was said, you just have to make a decision as to what's more important to you: pursuing your business venture with your father, or your fitness goals. That is, IF it is really impossible to convince him to help you achieve something that means so much to you...
 
Maybe I didn't read this right. You're 30 years old, and you need your dad to pay for your 62 cent meals? Sounds like a problem to me. I'd suggest breaking into the old piggy bank, and freeing up some of that paper route money. Then, you in fact would be an adult man, and you'd get to choose your very own food. Respect is earned, so go get yourself some. I don't post on this board, but this struck me as so lame that I had to comment.
 
megalo said:
Maybe I didn't read this right. You're 30 years old, and you need your dad to pay for your 62 cent meals? Sounds like a problem to me. I'd suggest breaking into the old piggy bank, and freeing up some of that paper route money. Then, you in fact would be an adult man, and you'd get to choose your very own food. Respect is earned, so go get yourself some. I don't post on this board, but this struck me as so lame that I had to comment.

Easy there. Maybe you didn't read the entire post...

"We are sharing the same home, and we are building a business in Kuwait together. So I have to rely on him for money to purchase more food."

To the OP... perhaps it's not in your best interests to partner up with your dad if he insists on calling ALL the shots, right down to your diet, and you don't get to reap any of the rewards of your hard work... but that's kind of a different issue.
 
megalo said:
Maybe I didn't read this right. You're 30 years old, and you need your dad to pay for your 62 cent meals? Sounds like a problem to me. I'd suggest breaking into the old piggy bank, and freeing up some of that paper route money. Then, you in fact would be an adult man, and you'd get to choose your very own food. Respect is earned, so go get yourself some. I don't post on this board, but this struck me as so lame that I had to comment.

Pardon me, my father happens to control the financial aspect of our business. Obviously you think I live with daddy because i can't make it on my own? I am a US citizen, and i sacrificed a lot of things to come to the other side of the world to partner up with my father to buld a business that is about to payoff. I donated a lot of my material posessions to charity, and invested what little savings i did have to buy a $1600.00 plane ticket, and pay the balance on an autoloan I had. So please don't preach to me.

When a business is new, and things haven't started to bloom yet money can be tight. Getting my frugal father to pony up money for food in a time where I probably could postpone my goals and eat cheap is very difficult. I'd compare it to pulling teeth with tweezers.

All I really asked for was advice on things i could do or say to get my father to be more open minded about what I am trying to accomplish.

But you seem to think I'm some scrub leaching off my father who isn't self sufficient. Do you think some one would give up a $59,475 a year job to come to come to Kuwait to do that?

Thank you drive thru!
 
You will not win this arguement. Accept this. Let go.

It is a shame he does not share your values and goals regarding health.
Obviously he could benefit. Sadly, it will catch up with him someday.

Find a way to purchase, store and consume your own food.
Do whatever it takes.

Also ... when you post here, you'll get support and you'll get criticism.
Lashing out in anger will simply move the good people away from you ....
And the jokers will feed on you.

"PM disabled due to george spellwin spam" .... ?
This site is also a business you know.

Relax.
 
It's my personal experience, and I really hope it will not turn out the same way for you, that people SIMPLY don't want to change their ways...

It took me losing 30kilos to show people the correct way is the OTHER way around. When people asked me (and ohhhh, do they ask) "that is wonderful, how did you do it". Everytime I answered "eating more and going to the gym" the response was always the same "eating more?" they somehow block the part about the gym.

Think about it, it seems natural: to lose weight, you eat less calories, presto. if you want to lose fast, you eat very little.

It takes a lot of convincing to go against that logic bro, is like explaining people that white is not a color, but the sum of all colors, or that when they see a red object, they are seeing an object that absorbs ALL colors, but red.

now, simply try and go your way, show him with results and don't let him bring you down.

I was also a once-a-day eater you know...
 
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