Fat-burning drug itinerary - please critique!

[plornive]

I am going to be doing an isocaloric diet during this diet. I'll start with about 11% bf at 160 lbs., and plan to get to about 6~7% or possibly lower.

First, I'll diet naturally for 2-3 weeks, losing about 1 pound of weight (hopefully all fat) per week.

Then for 4 weeks, I will use ECA (either 25mg ephedrine HCL and 250mg caffeine, or some formulated stack) 3-4 times per day.

Then for 2 weeks, I will use 60mg usnic acid, ECA, and about 2.5mg yohimbine HCL (stack is called "eat & lose"). I will have to experiment with the dosage of the usnic acid.

Then I will take a 2 day break from this stuff while starting guggulsterone (20mg).

Then for 12 days, I will take clenbuterol with the guggulsterone. I will have to experiment with the dosage of clen.

Then I will take a 2 day break from clen, while continueing the guggulsterone.

Then I will take ECA without anything else for a week or two, and taper off of it over another week or two.

Throughout, I will be doing morning cardio on an empty stomach 4 times per week, and lifting 5 times per week about 30 min each time (each part once per week). I'll be eating most of my carbs morning and postworkout. Post-workout carbs will be 30g maltodextrin, and some moderate-GI carbs. All other carbs will be low-GI. I may experiment with lipoderm Y near the end. Lipoderm Y is topical Yohimbine HCL. I'll use it on my sides, and possibly my pecs and abs.

Does this look ok? Does it make sense? Will clenbuterol make the ephedrine ineffective? Does the order in which I plan to use the drugs make sense? Thanks for any replies or information!

 

[plornive]

Or do you think I am way off with this strategy? Should I pick one or two fat-burning drugs and stick with them?

 

[Primal X]

I say fuck all that shit and you will get better, or AWESOME results with this:
Weeks 1-2 Clen (starting at 40mcgs working up to 120mcgs)
Weeks 3-4 ECA (take this at 3 seperate dosages a day)
Weeks 5-6 Clen (starting at 60mcgs working up to 120mcgs)
Weeks 1-6 ALA 1000mgs everyday

Diet: 6 meals a day, meat at every meal, pre workout meal has fruit, post workout meal has dextrose/malto/white rice, and the other meals have just meat & veggies!

 

[plornive]

Ok. That sounds cool.

The reason I was hesitant to use clen too early was that I thought it might decrease the effectiveness of the ephedrine.

Also, I wanted to try unsic acid. Unsic acid is what was in Lipokinetix (banned by FDA). I have heard good things about it.

So what do you think about this?
Weeks 1-2 Clen (starting at 40mcgs working up to 120mcgs)
Weeks 3-4 ECA + UNSIC ACID ("eat & lose") (take this at 3 seperate dosages a day)
Weeks 5-6 Clen (starting at 60mcgs working up to 120mcgs)
Weeks 1-6 ALA 1000mgs everyday

Does this make sense?

Anyone who has taken all three of these or even just one? I like to get many perspectives. Please comment on the plan above, and the plan in the original question.

 

[plornive]

Primal X, thanks for the reply. What is it like being on clen? How does it affect lifts? How is the withdrawal after 2 weeks?

 

[Primal X]

Clen is nothing like an ECA stack. Clen actually keeps protein in the cell and gives a slight anbolic effect so the weight you lose while on clen is ALL fat assuming that protein intake was high enough. Your strength will go up as well. In my experiences with clen the first few days are the harshest, and there are no withdrawal symptoms. Usnic acid use should be dosed during you 2 weeks off of clen do to its temperature raising capabilities! Good luck bro, and remeber diet is the key.

 

[plornive]

Thanks for the excellent tips... Now I'm actually excited to start cutting so I can use clen!

Would it be ok to stack clen with TRIAC? I just bought a bottle today. How about the TRIAC with the usnic acid? Anyone who's used triac?