Of course the grand daddy of them all is DNP, but you might shake,
But you mention clen and ask not to post on it.
The only clen that I believe actually works is spiropent
My point is that after 2-3 days you develop a tolerance and the sides affects,
Subside. Especially the shaky felling and shaky hands.
Any that’s my 2 cents, I will be trying sesapure and clen together this week
And will post my results.