fat boys and d-bol

[how did this happen?]

Is this a no no? If a person is loosing fat (not weight), is it a conflict to use d-bol in the 1st 6 or 2nd 6 weeks of a cycle?


I'm not really concerned with 'weight' as much as added fat.

 

[Prizz]

Is this a no no? If a person is loosing fat (not weight), is it a conflict to use d-bol in the 1st 6 or 2nd 6 weeks of a cycle?


I'm not really concerned with 'weight' as much as added fat.

No AAS will cause you to gain fat..... Only your diet will dictate that.... So, No..... You can use Dbol if your fat..... However, I don't reccomend ANY overweight person use steroids..... They increase your BP, HR, and can mess with Lipid profiles making a heart attack or stroke more probable.....

rizz

 

[how did this happen?]

No AAS will cause you to gain fat..... Only your diet will dictate that.... So, No..... You can use Dbol if your fat..... However, I don't reccomend ANY overweight person use steroids..... They increase your BP, HR, and can mess with Lipid profiles making a heart attack or stroke more probable.....

rizz

When people talk about gains of 4-8 lbs a week using d-bol, is this overexagerated rizz?

Also, the reason I asked about d-bol and fat boys is because by caloric reduction and carb reduction, it may not be as effective. Could this occur?

 

[swordfish151]

When people talk about gains of 4-8 lbs a week using d-bol, is this overexagerated rizz?

Also, the reason I asked about d-bol and fat boys is because by caloric reduction and carb reduction, it may not be as effective. Could this occur?

It depends on what the "fat" boy is trying to accomplish...you can cut on ANY AAS...including DBOLS...it boils down to the diet..but how fat are we talking about here??

4-8lbs is not an exageration...but we are not talking about lean body mass either..most if not all is water gain..

 

[how did this happen?]

but we are not talking about lean body mass either..most if not all is water gain..

Water gain? Why would a person subject their body and liver to the possible sides from d-bol for 15- 20 lbs of water? I don't understand

 

[itlnstln]

It depends on what the "fat" boy is trying to accomplish...you can cut on ANY AAS...including DBOLS...it boils down to the diet..but how fat are we talking about here??

4-8lbs is not an exageration...but we are not talking about lean body mass either..most if not all is water gain..

I agree here - you can cut on Dbol and Sus - as we tell everyone, it's diet,diet,diet...................

If you can take DBol, use the right AI for your body, - keep the bloat down - it might be just what you are looking for.

We (as a whole) are here to help, nothing else - no one here has ever talked anyone out of doing what they proposed to do.

Maybe we should start "assuming" they will, and help them based on that (like "fish" just did)

 

[JohnnyWest]

estrogen drom dbol + bad diet + no cardio = fatter fat boy

 

[Prizz]

I agree here - you can cut on Dbol and Sus - as we tell everyone, it's diet,diet,diet...................

If you can take DBol, use the right AI for your body, - keep the bloat down - it might be just what you are looking for.

We (as a whole) are here to help, nothing else - no one here has ever talked anyone out of doing what they proposed to do.

Maybe we should start "assuming" they will, and help them based on that (like "fish" just did)

Problem is, AI's aren't as effective with Dbol as they are with Test.... Dbol does cause alot of water retention, but it causes muscle gain too... You get both..... If youre dieting, no, you won't gain as much muscle as you would if you were bulking..... Remember, Food is the most anabolic compound, much more then AAS...... Sounds like youre searching for the best AAS to use How..... Are you still determined to use even when youre pretty over weight?

rizz

 

[bigmark1515]

Fat boys should be taking gear, they should be concerned about diet and cardio.

 

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Are you still determined to use even when youre pretty over weight?

rizz

Yeah, rizz, I am. I am also detrmined to do it in the safest manner. So if that means half the dosage of a non-heavy person, then so be it. But they will be taken. There is nothing really to change my mind on that.


I know that AS is not magic. I also understand that cardio and diet are the biggest factors. And I feel that when I ask my questions, sometimes others don't think I see it this way. My cardio plans for the cycle alone is HIT daily in the am and brisk walking/jogging in the evening (evenings that are not near leg workouts that is).

Trust me, I'm not looking for a mgic solution. I know that this will be hard work. Hard work that can be ASSISTED by AS. That's my outlook.

 

[mustang_00]

Is it true that when "fat" people take dbol they get tired faster? I remember one of my friends doing dbol a few years back and that poor dude was always insanly tired.

 

[blut wump]

What are your goals? Do you want simply to get stronger or is your goal to look good naked?

If strength is all you're after from the dbols then accept the fat and take them and the slight extra risks from being overweight. Take your liver protectants and any other ancillaries and enjoy the ride.

If looking good naked is your goal the extra oestrogen, muscle pumps and reduced cardio capacity will make cutting harder.

 

[golferstud84]

some embrace the water retention.... water retention and quick strength gains go hand in hand. You muscle cells and body saturate themselves with water. The strength gains in return with proper diet help grow muscle.

My outlook on dbol... keep the bloat down a bit because it can be uncomfortable but do not avoid retaining water.

You will lose alot of your water gains after your cycle...

Overall it can be effective. Its not something I would personally just cycle with by itself... for me its purpose is just to jumpstart my test cycles until the test kicks in.

gl

 

[Prizz]

Yeah, rizz, I am. I am also detrmined to do it in the safest manner. So if that means half the dosage of a non-heavy person, then so be it. But they will be taken. There is nothing really to change my mind on that.


I know that AS is not magic. I also understand that cardio and diet are the biggest factors. And I feel that when I ask my questions, sometimes others don't think I see it this way. My cardio plans for the cycle alone is HIT daily in the am and brisk walking/jogging in the evening (evenings that are not near leg workouts that is).

Trust me, I'm not looking for a mgic solution. I know that this will be hard work. Hard work that can be ASSISTED by AS. That's my outlook.

Ok man, I'm glad youre honest...... Just do me a favor, keep your dosages low plz..... If youre too heavy, youre at risk for caridovacular problems..... I'd rather see you use a non water retaining AAS, so you won't get increased BP..... Youre gonna be doing alot of cardio, getting the HR up, which will increase BP as it is..... Non water retaining AAS would be alot safer.....

rizz

 

[ksbst9mm]

Is this a no no? If a person is loosing fat (not weight), is it a conflict to use d-bol in the 1st 6 or 2nd 6 weeks of a cycle?


I'm not really concerned with 'weight' as much as added fat.

a person loosing fat is loosing weight

 

[Benoitzv]

Guys advide here, same situation I was a 264 Lbs 36% Fat, i'd been in a clean diet, full cardio, some weightlifting program at my gym and I'd been able to drop 44 Lbs and 11% Fat, now I am 220 Lbs, My goal is to lose 22 Lbs more but I would like to gain muscle....my idea is a month of full cardio clean diet along with Lipo 6 UC, and then get Dianabol 20mgs/6 days (excluding sundays) for a 25 days..... What doyou think about this and what advice you can give me.....Thanks!!

 

[ConanX]

First run some T3 and Clen OR ECA OR an OTC fatburner you're comfortable with that works. Get down to 10-18% bodyfat. Then throw in the AAS and it'll work like magic. RIght now you'll just look like a bigger, more bloated version of yourself. Plus all the extra estrogen floatiing around won't help a bit.