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Date: 08/20/03 04:32 PM
Author: LA Triathlete
Subject: beware of fake gear....
Hey everyone- I am sorry to have to post this type of information, but I thought you might want to know some disturbing results I just found out.
About 2 weeks ago, I posted a thread questioning the quality and contents of Blue Diamond Lab gear. In doubt was their Masteron and Primoject (Primoject supposedly contains Primobolon and Tren Acetate). I had been using both for well over 8 weeks and was seeing little to no results. As such, I decided to have it sent off to be tested by two independent labs (one at a local university, the other a professional chemical company). The specific lot numbers of the vials I have are: Masteron - Lot # BDM-50-03 Primoject - Lot # BDPJ100-30-02
The results all came back negative for any of the components that BDL said were in it. Both vials contained watered down Boldenone Undecylenate (Equipoise). To be specific, what was suppose to be 50mg/ ml of Masteron was actually 25mg/ml Boldenone Undecylenate, and what was suppose to be 50mg/ml each of Methenolone Acetate and Tren Acetate was in fact 50mg/ml of Boldenone Undecylenate, again.
Some of you may have had good results from BDL gear. Maybe BDL does not lie about the contents of all their gear. But as for their Masteron and Primoject, specifically, all I can tell you is that it is fake. If any of you are about to purchase this stuff, you might what to think twice. If you are about to start a cycle with it, you might want to have it tested before you start injecting. No need to mess up your cycle like mine!
I have sent a few mods and other board members the PDF of the results sent to me by the chemical company. If any of you would like to jump in on this thread, feel free to do so. I am not asking any of you to stick your necks out in defense of my claims if you feel you can not. Also, I am not sure if mods are bound by some ethical point such that they can not comment on this, but if any mod that I have not sent the report to would like to see a copy, I would be happy to send them one.
For those of you who think I am lying and that I have some weird vested interest in putting myself in the middle of this issue, that's fine by me. Since I am not going to be able to convince everyone that my claims are true, I challenge those who think I am lying to spend $250 on a BDL Primoject vial and $210 on a Masteron vial, have it tested (another $270), and let us know what your results are. Better yet, since I still have unopened vials of both the Masteron and Primoject, I am willing to send the stuff to a respected mod, give them the money to have it tested, and let them post the results for people to see. Again, I am not saying that all BDL gear is fake, but as for their Masteron and Primoject, again, I say it's fake.
Guys- you can take what I am saying as something truthful, or leave it and take your chances. I really wish there were a better way to do all of this, that I had more clout and respectability on the board, and that the warning I am putting out would be taken. Since some of you will certainly yell "liar," do so all you want, I can't stop you. But I would rather give you guys the heads up about BDL, rather than know about it and not say anything. That would be the most bullshit thing that could be done at this point.
Anyway, this thread is long enough. Good luck to any of you guys that have bought BDL gear, or are still willing to buy from them. I guess the only real word of caution I can give you all based on my experience is "Buyer Beware!!!!!!!!!!"
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Date: 08/20/03 04:32 PM
Author: LA Triathlete
Subject: beware of fake gear....
Hey everyone- I am sorry to have to post this type of information, but I thought you might want to know some disturbing results I just found out.
About 2 weeks ago, I posted a thread questioning the quality and contents of Blue Diamond Lab gear. In doubt was their Masteron and Primoject (Primoject supposedly contains Primobolon and Tren Acetate). I had been using both for well over 8 weeks and was seeing little to no results. As such, I decided to have it sent off to be tested by two independent labs (one at a local university, the other a professional chemical company). The specific lot numbers of the vials I have are: Masteron - Lot # BDM-50-03 Primoject - Lot # BDPJ100-30-02
The results all came back negative for any of the components that BDL said were in it. Both vials contained watered down Boldenone Undecylenate (Equipoise). To be specific, what was suppose to be 50mg/ ml of Masteron was actually 25mg/ml Boldenone Undecylenate, and what was suppose to be 50mg/ml each of Methenolone Acetate and Tren Acetate was in fact 50mg/ml of Boldenone Undecylenate, again.
Some of you may have had good results from BDL gear. Maybe BDL does not lie about the contents of all their gear. But as for their Masteron and Primoject, specifically, all I can tell you is that it is fake. If any of you are about to purchase this stuff, you might what to think twice. If you are about to start a cycle with it, you might want to have it tested before you start injecting. No need to mess up your cycle like mine!
I have sent a few mods and other board members the PDF of the results sent to me by the chemical company. If any of you would like to jump in on this thread, feel free to do so. I am not asking any of you to stick your necks out in defense of my claims if you feel you can not. Also, I am not sure if mods are bound by some ethical point such that they can not comment on this, but if any mod that I have not sent the report to would like to see a copy, I would be happy to send them one.
For those of you who think I am lying and that I have some weird vested interest in putting myself in the middle of this issue, that's fine by me. Since I am not going to be able to convince everyone that my claims are true, I challenge those who think I am lying to spend $250 on a BDL Primoject vial and $210 on a Masteron vial, have it tested (another $270), and let us know what your results are. Better yet, since I still have unopened vials of both the Masteron and Primoject, I am willing to send the stuff to a respected mod, give them the money to have it tested, and let them post the results for people to see. Again, I am not saying that all BDL gear is fake, but as for their Masteron and Primoject, again, I say it's fake.
Guys- you can take what I am saying as something truthful, or leave it and take your chances. I really wish there were a better way to do all of this, that I had more clout and respectability on the board, and that the warning I am putting out would be taken. Since some of you will certainly yell "liar," do so all you want, I can't stop you. But I would rather give you guys the heads up about BDL, rather than know about it and not say anything. That would be the most bullshit thing that could be done at this point.
Anyway, this thread is long enough. Good luck to any of you guys that have bought BDL gear, or are still willing to buy from them. I guess the only real word of caution I can give you all based on my experience is "Buyer Beware!!!!!!!!!!"
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