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I don't know about the EQ, but stong androgens like tren tend to cause fatigue.
glennds
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i have been on dbol about 4 weeks now. i am loving the gains, about 7 lbs, but have felt a little more sluggish than usual. i am not sure if this is related to the dbol or just a normal reaction to hot august heat. who the hell knows? regardless, it is not terrible and just one of those things we put up with when doing AAS.
macrophage69alpha
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progestin..
though dehydration may be a factor as well
though dehydration may be a factor as well
macrophage69alpha
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from
Contracept Technol Update. 1984 Jun;5(6):71.
the following potential complications of progestins in OC: hypertension; decreased levels of high density lipoproteins; acne; oily skin; headaches between pill cycles; dilated leg veins; pelvic congestion syndrome; thrombosis of superficial leg veins; gallstones; Monilia vaginitis; cholestatic jaundice; and depression, fatigue, and decreased libido.
Contracept Technol Update. 1984 Jun;5(6):71.
the following potential complications of progestins in OC: hypertension; decreased levels of high density lipoproteins; acne; oily skin; headaches between pill cycles; dilated leg veins; pelvic congestion syndrome; thrombosis of superficial leg veins; gallstones; Monilia vaginitis; cholestatic jaundice; and depression, fatigue, and decreased libido.
macrophage69alpha
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tren has different activity than progesterone, but has greater binding affinity (at least in some tissue) to the PR
Psychoneuroendocrinology. 2004 Apr;29(3):339-54. Related Articles, Links
Administration of progesterone produces mild sedative-like effects in men and women.
Soderpalm AH, Lindsey S, Purdy RH, Hauger R, Wit de H.
Department of Psychiatry, The University of Chicago, 5841 S. Maryland Avenue, Chicago, IL 60637, USA.
The goal of this study was to investigate the behavioral and subjective effects of a single dose of progesterone in men and women. Certain metabolites of progesterone (e.g., allopregnanolone) are potent positive allosteric modulators of GABA(A) receptors, and produce sedative-like effects in laboratory animals. This study was designed to examine the acute effects of these neurosteroids in humans. Women (n=7) in their early follicular phase and men (n=10) received intramuscular injections of progesterone (200 mg) or placebo. Dependent measures included plasma levels of progesterone and allopregnanolone, self-report measures of mood and subjective effects and behavioral measures of psychomotor performance. Plasma concentrations of progesterone and allopregnanolone increased reliably and with little intersubject variability after drug administration, and levels were similar in men and women. Administration of progesterone produced small, delayed increases in heart rate and feelings of fatigue, and it impaired smooth eye pursuit. These results suggest that, although the effects are modest and not simply related to plasma concentrations, progesterone and its metabolites can produce sedative-like effects in both men and women.
Psychoneuroendocrinology. 2004 Apr;29(3):339-54. Related Articles, Links
Administration of progesterone produces mild sedative-like effects in men and women.
Soderpalm AH, Lindsey S, Purdy RH, Hauger R, Wit de H.
Department of Psychiatry, The University of Chicago, 5841 S. Maryland Avenue, Chicago, IL 60637, USA.
The goal of this study was to investigate the behavioral and subjective effects of a single dose of progesterone in men and women. Certain metabolites of progesterone (e.g., allopregnanolone) are potent positive allosteric modulators of GABA(A) receptors, and produce sedative-like effects in laboratory animals. This study was designed to examine the acute effects of these neurosteroids in humans. Women (n=7) in their early follicular phase and men (n=10) received intramuscular injections of progesterone (200 mg) or placebo. Dependent measures included plasma levels of progesterone and allopregnanolone, self-report measures of mood and subjective effects and behavioral measures of psychomotor performance. Plasma concentrations of progesterone and allopregnanolone increased reliably and with little intersubject variability after drug administration, and levels were similar in men and women. Administration of progesterone produced small, delayed increases in heart rate and feelings of fatigue, and it impaired smooth eye pursuit. These results suggest that, although the effects are modest and not simply related to plasma concentrations, progesterone and its metabolites can produce sedative-like effects in both men and women.
macrophage69alpha
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perhaps that should have been made more clear.
tren is the progestin, EQ is not (at least not known to be)
tren is the progestin, EQ is not (at least not known to be)
macrophage69alpha
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Generic MALE
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I think any gear can give it to you from time to time. Because of adrenal fatigue. The adrenals help us adapt to stress.
When we take increased gear we also tend to work out harder for the cycle and restrict our diet. These are stressors.
So soon we suffer from G.A.S. (general adaptive syndrome) - a condition coined by Hans Selye.
Do a search on Hans and the condition.
needs rest, increased vitamin C and adrenal supplements. The adrenals and the cornea are the only 2 tissues that store vitamin C. You need lots when under stress.
Adrenal Fatigue
When we take increased gear we also tend to work out harder for the cycle and restrict our diet. These are stressors.
So soon we suffer from G.A.S. (general adaptive syndrome) - a condition coined by Hans Selye.
Do a search on Hans and the condition.
needs rest, increased vitamin C and adrenal supplements. The adrenals and the cornea are the only 2 tissues that store vitamin C. You need lots when under stress.
Adrenal Fatigue
Generic MALE said:
In which are these adrenal supps???
^^^^^^^^
Tren stimulates IGF-1 too right?
boogersnax
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Whacked said:
L-I-V-E-R enzymes... Some gear stress the liver more than others. Of course, if your training intensity is off the scale, you could be hitting it a little to hard.
My liver is real sensitive to stress caused by certain types of drugs, A-50, d-bol, tren, etc. right from the start, like from the first day I start taking them. I can only go about 3 to 4 weeks max on this gear before I have little energy and it's a real labor breathing. Needless to say, they cycle stays short.
After some intense workouts on this gear, I want to sleep all night, and if I can all day the next.
I hear what you're saying bro.
boogersnax said:L-I-V-E-R enzymes... Some gear stress the liver more than others. Of course, if your training intensity is off the scale, you could be hitting it a little to hard.
My liver is real sensitive to stress caused by certain types of drugs, A-50, d-bol, tren, etc. right from the start, like from the first day I start taking them. I can only go about 3 to 4 weeks max on this gear before I have little energy and it's a real labor breathing. Needless to say, they cycle stays short.
After some intense workouts on this gear, I want to sleep all night, and if I can all day the next.
I hear what you're saying bro.
So if my liver enymes are high...this means that lethargy is it's symptom?
