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Facts About Export Serono Kits!
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So how you doing Super? glad to see you are still around!
thank you SG, Sexual Mustard, johnboy, grainger, and the rest of you who are defending the legitimacy of these kits. unfortunately i think as long as these kits are in existence they are going to be cause for concern from alot of novice gh users. i believe alot of the experienced users really have no problems with these kits as witnessed by their continued purchasing of them on a consistent basis.
that's all i got, i don't chime in at all here at elite but felt the need to show my handle. take care.
warmest regards,
chubs
I AM NOT A SOURCE! DO NOT EMAIL ME FOR ANYTHING RELATED TO THE SALE OF ANYTHING DISCUSSED IN THIS THREAD!!!
thank you SG, Sexual Mustard, johnboy, grainger, and the rest of you who are defending the legitimacy of these kits. unfortunately i think as long as these kits are in existence they are going to be cause for concern from alot of novice gh users. i believe alot of the experienced users really have no problems with these kits as witnessed by their continued purchasing of them on a consistent basis.
that's all i got, i don't chime in at all here at elite but felt the need to show my handle. take care.
warmest regards,
chubs
I AM NOT A SOURCE! DO NOT EMAIL ME FOR ANYTHING RELATED TO THE SALE OF ANYTHING DISCUSSED IN THIS THREAD!!!
well then it would appear that we are all in agreement. export kits are NOT manufatured by serono as my source told me.
as for calling them. everybody that kept saying that they called serono and serono told them they were legit serono kits was lying. so i had to post the number to call them out. they never caled. had the sources not lied about it, the number would have never needed to be posted.
as always, my big beef is with being lied to. i was told they were seono kits and they are not. now that i've done some research and can prove they are not serono kits, the sources are now at least admitting that much.
it's sad that it comes to this. but that'st the game and the kind of ppl we deal with.
so we all agree that serono has absolutely nothing to do with these kits in any way, shape, or form. if you guys want to continue to spend money on them, inject whatever is in those vials, clean or dirt, that is your choice.
i just needed to make sure nobody else is lied to in the manner i was. knowlege is power and everybody knows a bit more.
now i just have the issue of the emails where my source lied to me saying that they were manufatured by serono and and refund i'm going to need. then i'll be able to sleep sound. my work here will be complete.
i'm sticking with my hologram kits from now on. i just got a few more in and love em'. i'm hooked!
PS! i will be testing these bad boys. actually i have the ball rolling on it already. if these come up fake or underdosed, i'm going to make that known too. and unlike all these phoney lab reports where the same lab results are atesting to 10 different lot numbers, i'll make my results VERY VERY easy to follow up on.
remember, you get what you pay for.
as for calling them. everybody that kept saying that they called serono and serono told them they were legit serono kits was lying. so i had to post the number to call them out. they never caled. had the sources not lied about it, the number would have never needed to be posted.
as always, my big beef is with being lied to. i was told they were seono kits and they are not. now that i've done some research and can prove they are not serono kits, the sources are now at least admitting that much.
it's sad that it comes to this. but that'st the game and the kind of ppl we deal with.
so we all agree that serono has absolutely nothing to do with these kits in any way, shape, or form. if you guys want to continue to spend money on them, inject whatever is in those vials, clean or dirt, that is your choice.
i just needed to make sure nobody else is lied to in the manner i was. knowlege is power and everybody knows a bit more.
now i just have the issue of the emails where my source lied to me saying that they were manufatured by serono and and refund i'm going to need. then i'll be able to sleep sound. my work here will be complete.
i'm sticking with my hologram kits from now on. i just got a few more in and love em'. i'm hooked!
PS! i will be testing these bad boys. actually i have the ball rolling on it already. if these come up fake or underdosed, i'm going to make that known too. and unlike all these phoney lab reports where the same lab results are atesting to 10 different lot numbers, i'll make my results VERY VERY easy to follow up on.
remember, you get what you pay for.
The closest comparsion I can come with is the Steris Cypionate thats still floating out there. It looks like steris packaged like it, but is it NO. Most likely just Brovel T-200. As far as this export Gh someone has access to the boxes and vials of Serostim brand GH and is repackaging it, with I truly hope is Chinese GH. If thats the case its a legit counterfeit. Obviously its not going to be in the wafer presentation that serostim is it is going to be just powder form. Good Luck.
XXXL
shut up and fade away............you started off with no idea what you were talking about and it looks as though you have finished in that same manner, people like you are what ruin good things because of stupidity............
because of large amounds of people calling serono chances are that these kits will possibly "dissapear" BECAUSE OF YOUR IGNORANCE.........
for the past 2 years Serono has been in the spotlight of the FDA for possible backdoor sales..........if you remember (which you probably don't because you sound like a newbie) serono ALSO made a public statement to EVERYBODY and the FDA that the MNH605A lot number was NOT A REAL LOT NUMBER, just like they are saying now about this lot number your dumbass keeps calling about, but guess what, they removed that claim from their webpage 6-8 weeks after they posted it.......their exact stament was that the kits WERE NOT manufactured by Serono and that the lot number didn't exist............well, if that's fucking true then why was that statement removed by the FDA? and why isn't this new lot number which they are saying is NOT REAL and DOESN'T EXIST have info about it on serono's page and the FDA page? if it was counterfit as they are saying, they are required by LAW to immediately contact the FDA, then bulletins would be sent to all distributors and pharmacies.........
but guess what bud? pharmacuetical companies aren't always 100% honest!! and you know what, neither are car dealerships dumbass (which you use as a comparison).........
think what ever the fuck you want...........but the post that the guy made with the link bo the Boston newspaper says it all if you REALLY read into it..........
coverups and politics is what it's all about here in america buddy.......i could say more, but you are DEFINITELY not worth the time...........
anyway, hopefully you didn't fuck too much shit up, it looks as though serono did that themselves though..........i wouldn't doubt if the export market begins to dry up soon after reading the newspaper link, just as the domestics already have.........
shut up and fade away............you started off with no idea what you were talking about and it looks as though you have finished in that same manner, people like you are what ruin good things because of stupidity............
because of large amounds of people calling serono chances are that these kits will possibly "dissapear" BECAUSE OF YOUR IGNORANCE.........
for the past 2 years Serono has been in the spotlight of the FDA for possible backdoor sales..........if you remember (which you probably don't because you sound like a newbie) serono ALSO made a public statement to EVERYBODY and the FDA that the MNH605A lot number was NOT A REAL LOT NUMBER, just like they are saying now about this lot number your dumbass keeps calling about, but guess what, they removed that claim from their webpage 6-8 weeks after they posted it.......their exact stament was that the kits WERE NOT manufactured by Serono and that the lot number didn't exist............well, if that's fucking true then why was that statement removed by the FDA? and why isn't this new lot number which they are saying is NOT REAL and DOESN'T EXIST have info about it on serono's page and the FDA page? if it was counterfit as they are saying, they are required by LAW to immediately contact the FDA, then bulletins would be sent to all distributors and pharmacies.........
but guess what bud? pharmacuetical companies aren't always 100% honest!! and you know what, neither are car dealerships dumbass (which you use as a comparison).........
think what ever the fuck you want...........but the post that the guy made with the link bo the Boston newspaper says it all if you REALLY read into it..........
coverups and politics is what it's all about here in america buddy.......i could say more, but you are DEFINITELY not worth the time...........
anyway, hopefully you didn't fuck too much shit up, it looks as though serono did that themselves though..........i wouldn't doubt if the export market begins to dry up soon after reading the newspaper link, just as the domestics already have.........
and as for lab testing, it appears as though you have a some sort of alterior motive for your continued bitching.........
if you REALLY had access to lab tests (which 99.9% of us don't) then you would have bought just one kit and had it tested before buying a bunch of them...........you obviously have no idea how expensive it is to test GH, it's not as simple HPLC test but a combination of reversed-phase high performance liquid chromatography, size exclusion chromatography and ion chromatography...........it's VERY expensive, i know............
there are few ways to get testing done, one is to have it sent in by a doctor and have a VERY VERY high fee paid and also a reason the product needs to be tested........and the second one is to get caught with the shit by the authorities, in which case THEY test it for you............
you sound pretty stupid, so why don't you go up to your local cop shop and say you want it tested, i'm sure they will do it for you!!
if you REALLY had access to lab tests (which 99.9% of us don't) then you would have bought just one kit and had it tested before buying a bunch of them...........you obviously have no idea how expensive it is to test GH, it's not as simple HPLC test but a combination of reversed-phase high performance liquid chromatography, size exclusion chromatography and ion chromatography...........it's VERY expensive, i know............
there are few ways to get testing done, one is to have it sent in by a doctor and have a VERY VERY high fee paid and also a reason the product needs to be tested........and the second one is to get caught with the shit by the authorities, in which case THEY test it for you............
you sound pretty stupid, so why don't you go up to your local cop shop and say you want it tested, i'm sure they will do it for you!!
rookie, you should thank me. you are exactly the kind of ppl i'm trying to educate. the IGNORANT!
what did i say in my very first post? shall i get another crayon and draw pic's for you so you can understand it? ? ? let me try to spell it out for you one more time. READ THIS AGAIN S-L-O-W-L-Y!
serono does not make the lot numbers i have listed. can you comprehend that or shall i give you a minute?
i've never made mention of the mnh lot number to which you keep refering. so i have no comment on those.
my motivation should be very obvious by now. I WAS LIED TO ABOUT THESE KITS! i was told to call serono to verify and when i did everybody changed their tune and said i shouldn't. MAKE UP YOUR MINDS! i only called once anyway, that's all i had to do. the only other person that i know for sure that has taken the time to call was supergirl. she asked me for the info too.
as for the testing, i said i'm working on it. super girl has even been kind enough to offer her assistance in resolving this matter in paying for the test. like a true superhero, she said she'd pay for the test all i need to do is make the arringments of my choice.
one last thing. funny how all the ppl chime in saying they called serono and proved they were legit and that i should do the same. then when i do call them, i'm told by the same ppl that i shouldn't be calling them. hmm, why could that be? ? ?
prbly the same reason i've been told to have these kits tested and when i do have it set up i'll be told not to. hmm?
if i'm so wrong all it will take is one concrete verifiable thing to prove me wrong. and then what would i be able to say? yet nobody wants to furnish me with this info.
as for the testing, there is a very small chance that i'll be able to have it done for free. a good friend of my family is a very high up at the univeristy of michigan research department. heads the MSRB'S I, II, and III. he said he could prbly have it "slip through the crack" as he put it. but i feel if i have him run the test, everybody will say it's bias or i asked him to furnish false info. so i'm exploring all avenues.
sounds like there isn't a single person on this board that objects to the idea of testing this product to prove it's legit. so lets just work on that for now.
i've spoken with supergirl on this subject extensivly. she's going to help me get it tested. i'll set it up and she'll flip the tab. once i have the results, i'll post them.
right or wrong, i have nothing to lose. well if i'm wrong i will have lots to gain. it will mean my kits are legit. and that would make me happy.
sit tight, i'll see about getting these tests set up. hell, it won't cost me anything, so why not? ? ? ? ? then all minds will be at ease. . . . .
what did i say in my very first post? shall i get another crayon and draw pic's for you so you can understand it? ? ? let me try to spell it out for you one more time. READ THIS AGAIN S-L-O-W-L-Y!
serono does not make the lot numbers i have listed. can you comprehend that or shall i give you a minute?
i've never made mention of the mnh lot number to which you keep refering. so i have no comment on those.
my motivation should be very obvious by now. I WAS LIED TO ABOUT THESE KITS! i was told to call serono to verify and when i did everybody changed their tune and said i shouldn't. MAKE UP YOUR MINDS! i only called once anyway, that's all i had to do. the only other person that i know for sure that has taken the time to call was supergirl. she asked me for the info too.
as for the testing, i said i'm working on it. super girl has even been kind enough to offer her assistance in resolving this matter in paying for the test. like a true superhero, she said she'd pay for the test all i need to do is make the arringments of my choice.
one last thing. funny how all the ppl chime in saying they called serono and proved they were legit and that i should do the same. then when i do call them, i'm told by the same ppl that i shouldn't be calling them. hmm, why could that be? ? ?
prbly the same reason i've been told to have these kits tested and when i do have it set up i'll be told not to. hmm?
if i'm so wrong all it will take is one concrete verifiable thing to prove me wrong. and then what would i be able to say? yet nobody wants to furnish me with this info.
as for the testing, there is a very small chance that i'll be able to have it done for free. a good friend of my family is a very high up at the univeristy of michigan research department. heads the MSRB'S I, II, and III. he said he could prbly have it "slip through the crack" as he put it. but i feel if i have him run the test, everybody will say it's bias or i asked him to furnish false info. so i'm exploring all avenues.
sounds like there isn't a single person on this board that objects to the idea of testing this product to prove it's legit. so lets just work on that for now.
i've spoken with supergirl on this subject extensivly. she's going to help me get it tested. i'll set it up and she'll flip the tab. once i have the results, i'll post them.
right or wrong, i have nothing to lose. well if i'm wrong i will have lots to gain. it will mean my kits are legit. and that would make me happy.
sit tight, i'll see about getting these tests set up. hell, it won't cost me anything, so why not? ? ? ? ? then all minds will be at ease. . . . .
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XXXL said:
you are not the only person who was lied to XXXL... so stop your bitching.. several of us were in the same boat.. and only after lots of digging, calls and even flying to another state to get the real story... i finally got to the truth of the matter...
so I know for a fact that you were not deliberatly lied to but rather i am sure you were told the same shit as the rest of us...
so please stop harping and singing the "i was lied to" tune because it is getting old... You think i am not pissed off at the deception myself...
HOWEVER the one thing that eases my mind is the fact that the kits DO CONTAIN LEGIT GH... domestic GH.. the SAME that serono uses in their kits.... so please, give it a rest...
AS per the testing.. yes i said i will help because it will finally shut you up!!! LOL.. you bitch more than me when i have pms and haven't eaten in 4 hours
j/kso, go get the tests done if you feel that the above info is not sufficient for you nor is my word, which knowing you, i am sure it won't be...
To the rest of the "export" kit users... ENJOY your kits, because they are LEGIT GH!!!!!!! whooooo hooooooo... hell grainger's joints are screaming LOL
this is my last post for you on this subject XXXL
you keep saying that this lot DOESN'T EXIST........
as i ALREADY POSTED, Serono said the same thing about an MNH605A lot number that was an export kit, over a year ago......the FDA cracked down on sales and Serono's response was that the lot didn't exist, the kits were showing up in legit US channels and the FDA caught wind and needed to know why export kits were in US pharmacies......they put this on their website even, then 6 some weeks later the FDA had it removed because the discovered this was a mistake........
SO, don't believe every word Serono says, they have their ass's in the grinder and are trying to cover their ass's (again)
it's common knowledge they already lied about it once (do a search on their page, this info doesn't exist) and it looks as though they are doing the same thing with this lot number
also, if the kits were counterfit why the FUCK would the people doing it pick a fake number? all they have to do is get a damn kit and copy the fucking number........
as i've already said, it's IGNORANT people like you who screw good things up for people........
BOTTOM LINE WAS YOU WERE NOT LIED TO AND YOU ARE TAKING GOOD GH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
believe what you want, i'm done responding to your posts, i just wanted to help set the truth straight and i hate to see stupid people like you screw good things up because of their own lack of knowledge........
don't believe everything you hear, everybody has their own agenda, even LEGITIMATE pharmacuetical companies..........
you keep saying that this lot DOESN'T EXIST........
as i ALREADY POSTED, Serono said the same thing about an MNH605A lot number that was an export kit, over a year ago......the FDA cracked down on sales and Serono's response was that the lot didn't exist, the kits were showing up in legit US channels and the FDA caught wind and needed to know why export kits were in US pharmacies......they put this on their website even, then 6 some weeks later the FDA had it removed because the discovered this was a mistake........
SO, don't believe every word Serono says, they have their ass's in the grinder and are trying to cover their ass's (again)
it's common knowledge they already lied about it once (do a search on their page, this info doesn't exist) and it looks as though they are doing the same thing with this lot number
also, if the kits were counterfit why the FUCK would the people doing it pick a fake number? all they have to do is get a damn kit and copy the fucking number........
as i've already said, it's IGNORANT people like you who screw good things up for people........
BOTTOM LINE WAS YOU WERE NOT LIED TO AND YOU ARE TAKING GOOD GH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
believe what you want, i'm done responding to your posts, i just wanted to help set the truth straight and i hate to see stupid people like you screw good things up because of their own lack of knowledge........
don't believe everything you hear, everybody has their own agenda, even LEGITIMATE pharmacuetical companies..........
rookie, if you ever find yourself in a postion to back up anything you've said, please post agian.
as for your comments about how smart these guys are that relable the gh (if it really is gh) they are the same dumbasses that have been telling me to call serono and verify. only AFTER i called and followed up did they change their tune.
rookie, i'll miss our little chats but all good things must come to an end.
as for you miss super, i know it's getting old for you because i'm out the money and you are not. and now i noticed the word "help" has appeard in the offer that wasn't there in the email. begining to have doubts? ? ? as for the much digging to find out the truth, i was the one who tipped you off these weren't what you thought they were/said they where. gheezz you kept telling me they were the real deal until i sent you those numbers to check up on them.
however, i'll get in touch with you about the testing. i can have you send the payment to the lab directly if you wish once the test has been arrianged. once again, it could be free it my guy can get it set.
one question, will there be any objections to a person i know doing the test? or will everybody cry foul? i mean he won't actually do the test himself, but someone that works for him will do it.
speak now and i'll make other arriangments.
as for your comments about how smart these guys are that relable the gh (if it really is gh) they are the same dumbasses that have been telling me to call serono and verify. only AFTER i called and followed up did they change their tune.
rookie, i'll miss our little chats but all good things must come to an end.
as for you miss super, i know it's getting old for you because i'm out the money and you are not. and now i noticed the word "help" has appeard in the offer that wasn't there in the email. begining to have doubts? ? ? as for the much digging to find out the truth, i was the one who tipped you off these weren't what you thought they were/said they where. gheezz you kept telling me they were the real deal until i sent you those numbers to check up on them.
however, i'll get in touch with you about the testing. i can have you send the payment to the lab directly if you wish once the test has been arrianged. once again, it could be free it my guy can get it set.
one question, will there be any objections to a person i know doing the test? or will everybody cry foul? i mean he won't actually do the test himself, but someone that works for him will do it.
speak now and i'll make other arriangments.
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