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krishna

krishna

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So I've been working on restoring the thickness to my hair. Since my last cycle, I've managed to get it to come back in pretty thick. I'm currently using xandrox and saw palmetto extract. I've used emu oil sporradically also. Anyway, I'm thankful that my hair is back up to par, and I've decided not to take it for granted so I'm excluding a lot of gear from now on. My goals aren't to be super huge, and I can do just fine with milder gear and the right diet. With that said, I've decided to take test out of my winter cycle, and only run tbol and EQ. I was wondering what kind of results to shoot for on an EQ only cycle (tbol will only be the first 4 weeks). I was also wondering about front loading it because I know nothing about frontloading. I was thinking running the EQ at 400-500/wk. Thanks for replies!
 
krish i would run that eq at 600mg a week if you are cutting out the test. can't you run finastride with the test, i know mendo runs test e and tbol with finastride and is fine. anyway if you are gonna do the eq though i would run at that dose. frontloading is fine but you have to watch your bp especially with eq. i say just run it 600mg throughout and run the tbol. the tbol will increase your libido almost like test prop, ive used both. your gonna have one hell of a ride for 4 weeks, and then the eq should kick in pretty soon after
 
I agree w/ bruce. I ran an eq only at 400 (12 weeker) and got hardness & vacularity but not much on the strenght side (or added bw for that matter). Bruce, you say to watch bp on eq. I thought that was a bigger concern w/ gear that causes a lot of bloat, never heard that relating to eq. Learning all the time here.
 
as you all know i cycle without test also. my last cycle started with eq at 400mg, then i bumped it up halfway thru to 600mg. i definitely liked the 600mg better.
my next cycle will be deca/eq again.
frontload EQ a gram a week for 3 weeks (along with OT for 4 weeks)
start of week 4 i will drop eq to 500mg and add deca at 600mg and continue that for 13 more weeks...
i may run var the last 4 weeks
 
also i've never had a hair problem with any gear, but it seems like i have heard of people complaining about eq and their hairline, you might wanna ask around krishna.
 
also for the record my first cycle was deca 600mg a week no TEST. 22lbs of lean mass i was quite happy, no deca dick.
 
Thanks guys! I'm kind of starting to be in agreement with titan's point of view on test sides, and sides of certain gear.I refuse to run finasteride because it demolishes my libido. I'll try the EQ at 600 and see how it goes. I've done the research of EQ and the hair titan. I know that when it does cause hair loss, it is usually pretty severe, but it usually doesn't.
 
LVTitan said:
as you all know i cycle without test also. my last cycle started with eq at 400mg, then i bumped it up halfway thru to 600mg. i definitely liked the 600mg better.
my next cycle will be deca/eq again.
frontload EQ a gram a week for 3 weeks (along with OT for 4 weeks)
start of week 4 i will drop eq to 500mg and add deca at 600mg and continue that for 13 more weeks...
i may run var the last 4 weeks
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Damn that is SOLID but how was your libido?
 
You should make good gains with the EQ espically if you are bulking. EQ qill make you hungry as hell. I believeve you will grow fine. Since you are taking t-bol I see no need to dront load the EQ. I would just extend the EQ for 14 weeks.
 
You should try the Nioxing hair growth kits bro I am using their stuff and hair is full as ever including in the front were my hairline was going into early retirement fast.I am still on test 500mg per week and just started tren ed at 75mg to kick things into high gear a bit.I notice hairs still falling out but they seem to be growing in faster than they fall out so its all good.
 
I've looked into nioxin, and may try it eventually, but I'm doing good with what I'm using now so I don't want to mess with it.
 
Everybody's different. Obviously test ins't the way to go for some.
I have found test/tbol cycles to be the most side-free for me. Good results too. The trick is to find a good balance between mg test and mg finasteride and adex. Finasteride completely kills my libido too, but not if I run enough test. At 1 mg finasteride ED - 500 test e is the minimum for me, 750 is even better...plenty of libido and still no hair loss. Its also important to keep blood levels as even as possible. Thats my 2 cents.
 
shamrock11 said:
You should make good gains with the EQ espically if you are bulking. EQ qill make you hungry as hell. I believeve you will grow fine. Since you are taking t-bol I see no need to dront load the EQ. I would just extend the EQ for 14 weeks.
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i always frontload my eq. it is such a long ester.
 
LVTitan said:
running an oral will not get the eq into my system faster....
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Yeah I know, which is why I had him make the cycle a little longer. The oral will start giving him gains he can see until the EQ does kick in. When he stoops taking the orals the EQ will be kicking in.
 
i've also been hesitant to take certain gear now that i'm more focused on keeping my hair...

i take 1mg finaseteride ed now, no libido issues so far but i'm on about 60mg var ed (dunno if thats helping)

anyway it sucks cuz i've got a ton of sust, primo & deca sitting here... EQ gives me anxiety... i cant run deca w/ finasteride

wtf is left?
 
krishna, i am cycling the same way you are and for the same reasons. Just to warn you though, i thought eq would be a good choice and it absolutely shredded my hair. Your best bet is test/tbol with finasteride like mendo said, completely side free for me except that pesky acne.
 
Krishna, what's the dosage on the Tbol? I've always been worried about hairloss. My buddies call me 6-head b/c it's too big to be a 4-head :worried: . But so far I've ran test @ 500/wk. as well as EQ@600/wk. w/ no prob. on the hair line. Reason I ask about the Tbol is I've got enough dbol for my next cycle this winter. I've read numerous times dbol can fuck your hair up. So I was considering ditching the dbol and replace it w/ Tbol? You think Tbol would be a better choice? If so, how much you reckon?
 
Ya the tbol at 50mg/day. Looks like you were one of the unlucky ones with the EQ bossman. I'm crossing my fingers that I won't be unlucky. Tical, you should be able to run primo without much hair loss. Also, deca is a good choice if you don't stack it with test. The only problem with that is the libido issues. I might try a deca/var or deca/tbol stack once I get some dostinex. Also, tren is usually mild on the hair. I plan on a tren/tbol stack towards spring.
 
tren doesnt bother your hairline krishna? i havent tried it yet because of that specific reason, i thought it was terrible for your hair
 
|3ossman said:
tren doesnt bother your hairline krishna? i havent tried it yet because of that specific reason, i thought it was terrible for your hair
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No tren wasn't too bad. The majority of the members on here feel the same way.
 
|3ossman said:
reeeaaaalllyyyyy......hmmmmm *|3ossman re-thinks cycle plan*
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There was actually a poll on here where most of the members said it was not bad on the hairline, even to those who were predisposed. Just remember that any AAS can cause hair loss, it's just that the odds are better with certain gear. Ask around a little before you take my word for it. I don't want to be responsible for anyone losing their hair on my advice. I'm sure you know that AAS and hair loss is not an exact science. Just look what happened to you and the EQ!
 
right right, do you know if finasteride does anything for tren hairloss or is that a no no like deca? im already getting a little thin anyways, i might as well bic it but i cant bring myself to it at 22.
 
krishna said:
Ya the tbol at 50mg/day. Looks like you were one of the unlucky ones with the EQ bossman. I'm crossing my fingers that I won't be unlucky. Tical, you should be able to run primo without much hair loss. Also, deca is a good choice if you don't stack it with test. The only problem with that is the libido issues. I might try a deca/var or deca/tbol stack once I get some dostinex. Also, tren is usually mild on the hair. I plan on a tren/tbol stack towards spring.
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krish, primo can be a killer on the hairline !!
 
LVTitan said:
krish, primo can be a killer on the hairline !!
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Can but not usually. It is pretty much the same as EQ; in fact, it is derived from dihydroboldenone. Usually when primo or EQ cause shedding it is severe, I'll give you that.
 
|3ossman said:
right right, do you know if finasteride does anything for tren hairloss or is that a no no like deca? im already getting a little thin anyways, i might as well bic it but i cant bring myself to it at 22.
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The only real medical evidence I found said that tren did not interact with the 5ar enzyme. Based on that, I'd say that finasteride will not help with it, but it also won't hurt you like deca supposedly will.
 
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