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Because of the 4 different esters in sust250, your hormone blood levels may not be where you think they are.

Check this out:

500mg of sust250 injected once per week for 8 weeks, here's the blood concentration:
(please note that these are weekly averages)

Wk1: 244
Wk2: 512
Wk3: 609
Wk4: 623
Wk5: 623
Wk6: 623
Wk7: 623
Wk8: 623
Wk9: 379
Wk10: 111
Wk11: 14
Wk12: 0

NOTE: daily fluctuations go from approx 574mg to 670mg.

Now, let's try 1000mg/week for 8 weeks:
(once again, weekly averages)

Wk1: 488
Wk2: 1025
Wk3: 1219
Wk4: 1246
Wk5: 1246
Wk6: 1246
Wk7: 1246
Wk8: 1246
Wk9: 758
Wk10: 222
Wk11: 27
Wk12: 0

Two interesting things to note here: Peak levels reach approx 1340mg (!) at the weekly peak taking into account daily fluctuations! (higher than you thought, huh?). Also, double the amount of sust250 has still cleared the system by Wk12.

Finally, let's talk frontloading. If you frontload with 750mg the first week (all on day 1), and then inject 500mg once a week thereafter (total of 8 weeks), you get this:

wk1: 366
wk2: 646
wk3: 658
wk4: 630
wk5: 623
wk6: 623
wk7: 623
wk8: 623
wk9: 379
wk10: 111
wk11: 14
wk12: 0

NOTE: At day 5 of the above, you're already have approx. 530mg of test in your blood. Without frontloading the 750, you'd be at only approx. 354mg and at day 10 just hitting 522mg. (If you were to frontload with 1000mg on day 1, week 1, and do 500mg each week thereafter, you hit a peak of approx 830 mg on days 9, 10, and 11 -- so plan carefully all you heavy frontloaders).

All of the above are projections based on one injection per week. The averages per week are basically the same if you spread the injections out, but obviously the daily fluctuations are less.

Hopefully this helps out someone. Sust250 is just a bit tricky with timing because of all the esters.

/ck
 
yes, i've seen charts like this before. people don't always take everything into account. i would love to only use suspension or prop during a cycle. but with my job, injection schedules are very hard if not impossible to keep.

this is why i've stuck with sus. with so many esters, when i miss an injection or have to take it late, it will have a minimal effect on my cycle. but if i'm on a suspenson only cycle and go a few days with out an injection, i'm fucked.

currently i'm at 100% with my injection schedule. i wish i'd given suspension a try this time around. when putting my cycle together, i wasn't thinking about the fact that i'm going to be running gh and would have to my multipul daily injections. . . oh well, maybe next time.

go info though.
 
Alright, you guys are so demanding. Here's goes:

500mg injecting once every 7 days for 8 weeks:

Day 1: 30
Day 2: 144
Day 3: 214
Day 4: 284
Day 5: 354
Day 6: 340
Day 7: 342
Day 8: 372
Day 9: 488
Day 10: 522
Day 11: 556
Day 12: 590
Day 13: 540
Day 14: 518
Day 15: 524
Day 16: 616
Day 17: 626
Day 18: 648
Day 19: 670
Day 20: 608
Day 21: 574
Day 22: 568
Day 23: 648
Day 24: 646
Day 25: 648
Day 26: 670
Day 27: 608
Day 28: 574
Day 29: 568
Day 30: 648
Day 31: 646
Day 32: 648
Day 33: 670
Day 34: 608
Day 35: 574
Day 36: 568
Day 37: 648
Day 38: 646
Day 39: 648
Day 40: 670
Day 41: 608
Day 42: 574
Day 43: 568
Day 44: 648
Day 45: 646
Day 46: 648
Day 47: 670
Day 48: 608
Day 49: 574
Day 50: 568
Day 51: 648
Day 52: 646
Day 53: 648
Day 54: 670
Day 55: 608
Day 56: 574
Day 57: 538
Day 58: 504
Day 59: 432
Day 60: 364
Day 61: 316
Day 62: 268
Day 63: 232
Day 64: 196
Day 65: 160
Day 66: 124
Day 67: 92
Day 68: 80
Day 69: 68
Day 70: 56
Day 71: 44
Day 72: 32
Day 73: 20
Day 74: 0

NOTE: These are daily projected levels.

/ck
 
Alright, check this out. Inject on Monday and Thursday 250mg of sust250 for 8 weeks. First week double Monday's injection, last week eliminate Thursday injection. Thus, weekly totals:

Wk 1: 750mg
Wk 2-7: 500mg
Wk 8: 250mg

But look at the daily projections. Very steady blood concentration levels:

Day 1: 30
Day 2: 144
Day 3: 214
Day 4: 299
Day 5: 426
Day 6: 447
Day 7: 484
Day 8: 534
Day 9: 586
Day 10: 586
Day 11: 600
Day 12: 657
Day 13: 631
Day 14: 625
Day 15: 633
Day 16: 642
Day 17: 624
Day 18: 632
Day 19: 683
Day 20: 651
Day 21: 639
Day 22: 641
Day 23: 644
Day 24: 620
Day 25: 608
Day 26: 659
Day 27: 627
day 28: 611
Day 29: 619
Day 30: 628
Day 31: 610
Day 32: 608
Day 33: 659
Day 34: 627
Day 35: 611
Day 36: 619
Day 37: 628
Day 38: 610
Day 39: 608
Day 40: 659
Day 41: 627
Day 42: 611
Day 43: 619
Day 44: 628
Day 45: 610
Day 46: 659
Day 48: 627
Day 49: 611
Day 50: 619
Day 51: 628
Day 52: 610
Day 53: 593
Day 54: 587
Day 55: 520
Day 56: 469
Day 57: 427
Day 58: 386
Day 59: 332
Day 60: 280
Day 61: 238
Day 62: 196
Day 63: 162
Day 64: 138
Day 65: 114
Day 66: 90
Day 67: 68
Day 68: 56
Day 69: 44
Day 70: 28
Day 71: 22
Day 72: 16
Day 73: 10
Day 74: 0

Too much typing... How about making this a sticky for the newbies?

/ck
 
That looks good. Now, I am really going to be demanding. Let's try to make them a little more constant. How about EOD, which I am sure will not make a lot of difference, but you are doing such a good job, I figured you could do this one for use too.

Thanks
Nautica
 
Alright, I think I might need some Karma for this one.

This is what it looks like to inject 1 amp of sust 250 every other day for 8 weeks. (Starts on Monday of week 1, last injection Wednesday of week 8).

Projected daily blood concentrations of sust250, 1 amp every other day:

Day 1: 15
Day 2: 72
Day 3: 122
Day 4: 214
Day 5: 299
Day 6: 384
Day 7: 470
Day 8: 555
Day 9: 642
Day 10: 709
Day 11: 778
Day 12: 827
Day 13: 878
Day 14: 915
Day 15: 954
Day 16: 979
Day 17: 1006
Day 18: 1025
Day 19: 1046
Day 20: 1059
Day 21: 1074 (still climbing at the 3 week mark!)
Day 22: 1081
Day 23: 1090
Day 24: 1090
Day 25: 1090
Day 26: 1090
Day 27: 1090
Day 28: 1090
Day 29: 1090
Day 30: 1090
Day 31: 1090
Day 32: 1090
Day 33: 1090
Day 34: 1090
Day 35: 1090
Day 36: 1090
Day 37: 1090
Day 38: 1090
Day 39: 1090
Day 40: 1090
Day 41: 1090
Day 42: 1090
Day 43: 1090
Day 44: 1090
Day 45: 1090
Day 46: 1090
Day 47: 1090
Day 48: 1090
Day 49: 1090
Day 50: 1090
Day 51: 1090
Day 52: 1090
Day 53: 1090
Day 54: 1090
Day 55: 1075
Day 56: 1019
Day 57: 968
Day 58: 877
Day 59: 791
Day 60: 707
Day 61: 620
Day 62: 536
Day 63: 448
Day 64: 382
Day 65: 312
Day 66: 264
Day 67: 212
Day 68: 176
Day 69: 136
Day 70: 112
Day 71: 84
Day 72: 66
Day 73: 44
Day 74: 32
Day 75: 16
Day 76: 10
Day 77: 0

NOTE: If you add an extra 2 amps (total of 750mg) for first injection, you'll hit approx 1000mg blood concentration on day 10 instead of day 17. However, with the frontload, you'll also hit a peak of around 1130mg at the end of week 2, beginning of week 3. Then the rest is the same as the above.
 
i see he likes to type. okay, how about this. lets see the chart if i inject sus EOD and after every 7th day you inject an extra 250mg uless that day falls on a tuesday. if it falls on a tuesday, then you inject an extra 500mgs. now this will be for even numbered months. if an odd numbered month, then you have to . . . . . .just kidding. ;)
 
also you will see that it is much better to shoot up on a regular schedule, like say every 3,4 or 5 days, than to do it every 3rd then every 4th day like on Mondays and Thursdays(which seems to be typical).... It will keep your shit more level this way. just go to that chart and plug in the days you plan on injecting and see what your daily and weekly test levels will be.
 
KingofPain, that's an excellent spreadsheet. I recommend everyone who wants to use sust250 to plug their stuff into that and arrange it in a way where their blood levels are most level. I was using a spreadsheet similar to that on my hard drive. Someone might want to check out my numbers to be sure they are completely accurate. I'm almost positive that it uses the same equation as what I computed above.

I just see so many newbies shooting sust250 with no idea how these drug half-lives work. I also see posts nearly every day with questions on how to take it. Sust250 is probably the most difficult because of the 4 different esters. The spreadsheet definitely helps.

Too bad there isn't a spreadsheet out there where you can plug in all the drugs you're stacking, it computes blood values based on half-lives, and then you can stack it in such a way as to insure steady blood levels of all the drugs. Now that would be nice!

/ck
 
Too bad there isn't a spreadsheet out there where you can plug in all the drugs you're stacking, it computes blood values based on half-lives, and then you can stack it in such a way as to insure steady blood levels of all the drugs. Now that would be nice!
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thanks for offering bro,sounds like you got alot of work ahead of ya! let us know when you are done.... :D thanks!
 
KingOfPain said:


thanks for offering bro,sounds like you got alot of work ahead of ya! let us know when you are done.... :D thanks!
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Hey, you're funny.

Maybe someone will volunteer. If someone knows Excel well, it shouldn't be too difficult once we have a list of the popular compounds with the correct half-lives. We need an Excel spreadsheet guru for this one.

/ck
 
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