Estrogenic Fat Patterns...

[DJLegacy2k1]

What can be used to help destroy estrogenic fat deposits? I tend to hold fat in my chest and "backside". During each cutting cycle I can cut way below where I think I should be at pound wise, but I will still be hold fat in my chest and backside. What can I use to help destroy and burn off these fat deposits. The cardio is already up and the diet is as on point as ever, but Ive been hearing more and more people telling me that Im goingto haveto do something on top of that to get rid of these "stubborn" areas. I may even have slight gyno symptoms from childhood as I am 22 years old. What would be the best course of action for trying to clear up these problem areas?

Any suggestions are welcomed!

Thanks Guys
-Legacy

 

[amnbaker]

I've got the same problem. It seems no matter how much I diet, Or train. The area around the ole nipple still stays puffy. Maybe it's just water weight? Who knows..

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

Ive always held fat in my chest and backside since I was young. Therefore leading me to beleive its all estrogen related. It sucks that its summer because Id run some Letro and Nolva and see if they helped. I dunno if I can go all summer without sex drive lol.

I wish there was a less harsh way to try and eliminate these fat deposits (or gyno) whichever it may be.

-Legacy

 

[mavssolaj]

i was actually wondering the same thing,ive had gyno problems since i was little,went to the docs and got it checks out n everything, still have large lumps under my nipples, some back fat, and stomach fat no matter how little i weight, its always there. will nolvadex, or clomid work??? i read clomid gets rid of the lumps under the nipple well??

 

[nisser512]

Yohimburn hasn't helped me at all. I've used nearly the entire bottle now, have lost nearly 15lbs in the past 3 months and haven't seen any changes in my chest.

 

[OMEGA]

Oral Yohimbe Hcl May help but its a Brutal Stimulant more most people.

 

[calveless wonder]

you just have to get super fuckin lean....some fat is just the last to go.

need to diet aggressively....yohimburn did help but it's not a miracle worker. Clenbuterol w/ some Femera - letrozole - will work well along with t3 if you're running type of anabolic.

i need to order some more because im having a harder time shedding my chest fat (and lower back) this time around.

but the leaner you get, the more its going to go.

most people just dont get lean enough. you're not going to be 8% bodyfat and have flappy man tits. it just doesn't happen

 

[td1111]

Some people get lipostabil injections to dissolve stubborn fat. Might be worth a try.

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

My problem is, there is a little fat in my chest, but its mainly the puffy nip problem. MY chest wouldnt look half as bad as it does if i didnt have the puffy nips. Its the good ole' "looks fine when its cold" but bad when its hot. I dont really feel any "lumps" right behind the nips, but I feel rubbery type tussue around the edges and whatnot. Id like to try other options before injections and surgerys, which is why I ask. Ive been cutting for a while now and if it was just my chest as a problem area Id think it was just stubborn fat, but since I also hold it in my backside and always have, Im guessing its estrogen related. Since I havent ran any A.A.S. Im kinda worried about running Letro and Nolva since Ive never run anything like it before, but these problem areas have been with me since I was YOUNG and Im sick of cutting and never getting rid of these areas. Its starting to get frustrating.

-Legacy

 

[calveless wonder]

My problem is, there is a little fat in my chest, but its mainly the puffy nip problem. MY chest wouldnt look half as bad as it does if i didnt have the puffy nips. Its the good ole' "looks fine when its cold" but bad when its hot. I dont really feel any "lumps" right behind the nips, but I feel rubbery type tussue around the edges and whatnot. Id like to try other options before injections and surgerys, which is why I ask. Ive been cutting for a while now and if it was just my chest as a problem area Id think it was just stubborn fat, but since I also hold it in my backside and always have, Im guessing its estrogen related. Since I havent ran any A.A.S. Im kinda worried about running Femera - letrozole - and Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - since Ive never run anything like it before, but these problem areas have been with me since I was YOUNG and Im sick of cutting and never getting rid of these areas. Its starting to get frustrating.

-Legacy

if it's just puffy nips you don't need any drugs, unless your estrogen is elevated beyond belief.

try yohimburn...believe me, once you get super lean the puffyness will be gone because the fat will not be there.

have your estro levels checked to see if they are indeed high. it makes it alot harder to lose fat when they are.

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

Well its puffy nips with rubbery type tissue around the edges. I can accually pintch the stuff on the sides, although I dont feel "lumps" behind the nips, there is rubbery tissue very close.

If its higher estrogen levels I figured something like letro would drop my levels and allow me to burn off the estrogenic fat and possibly destroy some gyno if it is really there.

I just got done 2 months of an ECAY stack, I used yohimburn in the past when I was using Thermorexin. Im now trying DermaTherm and Lipoflame...But Ive used about every sup possible, except things like Letro and other REAL drugs.

Im 6'0" and I have cut all the way down to 160lbs before and still had the same fatty areas, with little to no improvement. Like I said these areas have been issues since I was like 13 years old. Im now 22 and I havent been able to fix these areas during bulks or cuts or using almost every sup on this board that is legal lol.

-Legacy

 

[calveless wonder]

Well its puffy nips with rubbery type tissue around the edges. I can accually pintch the stuff on the sides, although I dont feel "lumps" behind the nips, there is rubbery tissue very close.

If its higher estrogen levels I figured something like Femera - letrozole - would drop my levels and allow me to burn off the estrogenic fat and possibly destroy some gynecomastia if it is really there.

I just got done 2 months of an ECAY stack, I used yohimburn in the past when I was using Thermorexin. Im now trying DermaTherm and Lipoflame...But Ive used about every sup possible, except things like Letro and other REAL drugs.

Im 6'0" and I have cut all the way down to 160lbs before and still had the same fatty areas, with little to no improvement. Like I said these areas have been issues since I was like 13 years old. Im now 22 and I havent been able to fix these areas during bulks or cuts or using almost every sup on this board that is legal lol.

-Legacy

6'0 at 160....you need more muscle bro. when you're that thin at that height it's easy to be skinny fat.

yeah, i would think about running letro then if you have that problem. if you're not on steroids, you can run a real low dose and see a huge drop in estro. .5-.75 mg's EOD will make a huge drop off. see how you respond.

i've had the same prob with puffy nips and actual gyno.

the leaner and bigger i am, the less of a problem it is. but letro, yohimburn and serious dieting make a huge difference.

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

That is my point, I never wanted to cut that far down. Everyone told me to up the cardio and those fat deposits would go away...Therefore I over did it and burned off alot of my previous gains. Then I bulked up a little bit more, then i injured my shoulder playing basketball, now Im cutting back down from 180lbs. I knew I shouldnt have to cut to 160lbs to see results, I was lifting harder then than ever and still had the problems.

Would there be any important sides or anything to monitor if I try and estrogen reduction "treatment"?

-Legacy