Thanx to everyone for the info- Bikinimom you look great! Nice back. I really need to add some size to mine and fill out my abs, been working out for years and have never quite been able to see them. My diet is clean, could stand a little more cardio yet don't want to burn off any muscle I've manage to put on. I'm 5'6" 130 lbs. eat 6 times a day pretty clean. Never had abs- not even when I was a teenager and I'm determined to get them dammit. The only reason I am considering the eq instead of anavar or primo is because it is at my fingertips and I trust that it is what it is supposed to be. Since my post I spoke with someone who said that his friend got such awful acne on his back from eq that to this day he doesn't take his shirt off. I guess that would be the oil base. Whats not oil based? Also said it thins your hair pretty bad and my hair is thin as it is. flex4life- thanks for the info, sounds positive-any of the above sides?