Eq??

[mm107]

Really nice info, ive been trying to design my first "mild" AAS cycle.

Seem to have come down to

EQ/TEST 12 Weeks.
or
Test/Var

But it looks like i want to go with EQ, just from it being an injection alone.

This would be my first real deal AAS. Ive played with PH, before, with good results. But still never gonna be like the real deal.

I was thinking of running
test @ 250mg/week weeks 1-12
eq @ 500mg/week weeks 1-12

I know, i wouldnt really "feel" them untill about week 6-7, this is a long time, but hey its worth the wait. I would throw in some t-bol/d-bol except its my first cycle and i dont want to deal with all those compounds ya know. Im going for PERMANENT gains, i dont want to blow up and loose quick.

This thread seemed to really get my mind set on the EQ.

So do you think the above dosages are significant? Could i even lower the EQ to 400mg/week?

 

[immortalis]

I was thinking of running
test @ 250mg/week weeks 1-12
eq @ 500mg/week weeks 1-12


This thread seemed to really get my mind set on the EQ.

So do you think the above dosages are significant? Could i even lower the EQ to 400mg/week?

I think those dosages are fine, but thats just based upon what previous recommendations I have read from more experienced people around here. The only concern I have is in regards to the duration. Everyone says that you really should push EQ out around 15 weeks if not more. Im have my current cycle planned to be about 25 weeks to tell you the truth.

Most people recommend 600EQ, so I would think that 500 would get you some decent results as well. If you want to try 400, i suggest giving it a run and see where you stand around week 8-9, but really with you doing 12 weeks total, theres not much time to tweak your dosages to get the desired affects you might be looking for during the remainder of your cycle.

Its just hard to say how one person will respond to X amount of X compound when everyones body respond differently. Couple that with the fact that I am not an experienced EQ user, and I cant give you any real solid advice. Hopefully someone with more experience will chime in and point you in a better direction.

 

[DiamondCutCows]

nice i'm bout to run
1-14 Test 400mg
1-12 EQ 750mg
1-12 Deca 450mg

think its too short?

What are looking for out of that? I'm not sure you need the Deca if that's a cutter...nice bulker though! I've sooooo been wanting to run a 20-30 weeker based around EQ for such a long time, but my damn Renal doc won't let me LOL

 

[mm107]

I think those dosages are fine, but thats just based upon what previous recommendations I have read from more experienced people around here. The only concern I have is in regards to the duration. Everyone says that you really should push EQ out around 15 weeks if not more. Im have my current cycle planned to be about 25 weeks to tell you the truth.

Most people recommend 600EQ, so I would think that 500 would get you some decent results as well. If you want to try 400, i suggest giving it a run and see where you stand around week 8-9, but really with you doing 12 weeks total, theres not much time to tweak your dosages to get the desired affects you might be looking for during the remainder of your cycle.

Its just hard to say how one person will respond to X amount of X compound when everyones body respond differently. Couple that with the fact that I am not an experienced EQ user, and I cant give you any real solid advice. Hopefully someone with more experience will chime in and point you in a better direction.

damn, nice answer bro,

yeap, i just lookin for the lowest dosages recommended, i can bump up dosages, but with a compound like EQ ur right, i would really feel it untill week 6-7, so if it was too low, it might take a while to even feel it after being bumped up.

Everywhere i have read the dosages were 400-600, so ill go right in the middle =].

HMM 15 weeks huh?

I was just recommended by ryker, to drop the test weeks after week 12, and maybe run EQ for 2 more weeks alone, good idea/bad idea? Shutdown problems? etc

 

[DiamondCutCows]

I was just recommended by ryker, to drop the test weeks after week 12, and maybe run EQ for 2 more weeks alone, good idea/bad idea? Shutdown problems? etc

Not sure of the reason for dropping the Test short, but def suggest running the EQ the 14wks....

Some people like to throw in a fast oral to get to PCT if gains are huge.

1-14 injects
13-16 oral (winny or something)
16-PCT

something like that...just a thought to help with PCT timing if you are worried about losing at the end

 

[rykertest]

you can keep running the test the entire time just fine, some guys just don'tlike to run it that long is all. I would run them both the entire time since the doses are on the lower side.

 

[Bruce]

i'm loving eq right now just to update. what a great steroid. i am only taking with proviron and libido is unreal and pumps and recovery are excellent. the recovery from workouts is not as anabolic as deca where i didn't even know i worked out the day before, but it is excellent and i can train much harder and longer. pumps are awesome and the vascularity, though mostly due being lean, is a factor as well as the veins are growing and coming down the arm farther. i really hope pct is easier as this steroid is very mild with regard to sides. i think it varies from person to person. my boy just doesn't like eq it does nothing for him even at a gram. me i think its great and until i run primo it will be the staple of my cycles.

 

[mm107]

Not sure of the reason for dropping the Test short, but def suggest running the EQ the 14wks....

Some people like to throw in a fast oral to get to PCT if gains are huge.

1-14 injects
13-16 oral (winny or something)
16-PCT

something like that...just a thought to help with PCT timing if you are worried about losing at the end

Yea, loosing is my biggest fear, thats why im stickin with a nice lean mass builder.

Fast oral in PCT? Such as Clen?

I gotta design a nice flawless attack =]

ryker, one good bro on here man!

i was skeptical about running test for so long, wouldnt it shut me down, or stop me from producing it naturally? just wondering.

I would love to run some winny, in fact i WAS thinkin it, just was worried about all the compounds...

Im thinkin nolva for PCT w/ some HCG. AIFM for bloat while on too.

 

[DiamondCutCows]

Yea, loosing is my biggest fear, thats why im stickin with a nice lean mass builder.

Fast oral in PCT? Such as Clen?

i was skeptical about running test for so long, wouldnt it shut me down, or stop me from producing it naturally? just wondering.

I would love to run some winny, in fact i WAS thinkin it, just was worried about all the compounds...

Im thinkin nolva for PCT w/ some HCG. AIFM for bloat while on too.

What's your cycle history bro? I don't want to tell you to run 3 compounds if this is your first run...low dose winny would be nice to dry you out leading up to PCT though...by "fast" I mean a compound that you KNOW when it's out of you and the proper time to start PCT...eliminates the guesswork that comes with Enanthate and similar esthers.

Believe it or not, I'm a clomid/nolva guy. I don't think many like clomid now, but it's cool with me...you seem to know your PCT/AI shit though

 

[mm107]

What's your cycle history bro? I don't want to tell you to run 3 compounds if this is your first run...low dose winny would be nice to dry you out leading up to PCT though...by "fast" I mean a compound that you KNOW when it's out of you and the proper time to start PCT...eliminates the guesswork that comes with Enanthate and similar esthers.

Believe it or not, I'm a clomid/nolva guy. I don't think many like clomid now, but it's cool with me...you seem to know your PCT/AI shit though

Yea, this would be my First REAL AAS cycle. I have cycled Superdrol & Pheraplex before. I had my pehera up to 40mg day, had great results, grew to about 185lbs. After PCT, was 180, prob gained about 15 pounds LEAN MASS. Wich i love. Only LEAN MASS Wanted.

now i understand what you meant by "fast",

I have played with PH's in the past, had my bloodwork before/after and im in perfect ranges after as well.

I mean, if its a "dumb" idea to run 3 compounds for first real AAS run, then i wont, but if it shouldnt be a big deal, i can run winny, would have access to it.

I know PCT/AI, but still "learning" i never ventured into the "dark side" lol, so i want to do it the right way, and keep my gains, since i wont run another cycle untill the yr after.