Eq/Winny vs eq/d-bol

[onemoreset]

My goal is to drop about 10 pounds of fat and hopefully gain 5-10 solid pounds of lean mass. I have taken a year off due to a torn pec-major, been slowly getting stronger (bench) in the past few months.

I want to run eq. for twelve weeks for cutting/ tendon-ligament support. I also have more than enough winny tabs and dbol on hand. Finnally, i have 20ml of prop/100 .

I've used dbol in the past, but i don't really like the bloat, smooth look(great 4 size n strength). Is this just a diet issue?

If I use the winny, where in the 12 weeker should i put it ? in the front or back? for 6weeks? more( i want a liver that works afterwards)?

How bout the prop? 20 ml is about 4 weeks @ 100 eod., front or back?

I can get more prop, but it is a hassle.

My stats : 35y-o ,6'2" , 215- 220 lbs, don't know bf%- but @ 195 im pretty ripped. So i'm a good 15 pounds over right now. Used deca and sust in the past with great results, but going 4 the leaner look now(no more big bench 4 me). Not a noob 2 gear,just eq and winny. I do have all the ancillaries(sp?) 4 pct,and liver so no problem there.

Any ideas/ suggestions?

Thanks Bros- onemoreset

 

[antonnio1]

If you want to cut down with what you have, then you'd want to run the eq and winny for sure. The dbol and eq makes no sense in my opinion. You'll want to do the winny for the last 6 weeks. Make sure you run the test for the whole cycle though. If it's available to you, I'd strongly recommend throwing in some tren.

 

[gettnlarge01]

EQ for at least 12wks,winny last 4wks,prop first 4wks,and get some test enth. to run with the EQ.The bloat from D-bol is not diet related its just what D-bol does. Tren is a good option if you have enough experience for it.

 

[onemoreset]

EQ for at least 12wks,winny last 4wks,prop first 4wks,and get some test enth. to run with the EQ.The bloat from D-bol is not diet related its just what D-bol does. Tren is a good option if you have enough experience for it.

Yeah, I kinda figured i would put the prop in front and winny in the back. To be honest, i was originally planning on a straight eq/ winny run w. no test. The prop was a freebie, so i was wondering if i can incorporate (4 weeks worth) into the eq/winny w/o major complications ( like my natural test falling into the toilet after the first 4 weeks, with the 8 week eq-winny still remaining)?

Can it be done?...in a perfect world, i would have more test on hand. My "friend" has a minimum order (more than i need or can justify) or i have to make the 3 hour trip to the border. The border is cheaper, but more drama involved.

Should i ditch the test and save it for next time?

Thanks again-onemoreset

 

[classy65gmc]

I am in week 12 of eq/winny and it was great. gained 6 lbs and dropped 6% bf. Diet was very clean and workouts 4 days a week. cardio 5 days a week. Alos did a run of clen and T-3 in the middle. Very happy with that combo EQ was 50o a week and winny was 50mg a day

 

[gettnlarge01]

I would run it without the test,just save it. keep us updated on the progress

 

[onemoreset]

I am in week 12 of eq/winny and it was great. gained 6 lbs and dropped 6% bf. Diet was very clean and workouts 4 days a week. cardio 5 days a week. Alos did a run of clen and T-3 in the middle. Very happy with that combo EQ was 50o a week and winny was 50mg a day

Wow,that sounds good, 6 lbs and -6%.

How long are you running the winny? ...I've heard of people running it for 8 weeks and longer, but that sounds too long 4 me( if winny is as bad for your liver/cholesterol levels as everyone says?).

If your body stats are close to mine (before), maybe i'll crank my dose up 2 50mg ED instead of EOD. Wasn't really sure, i've heard both ways.

Thanks to all for the insight! ...onemoreset

 

[gettnlarge01]

I take all orals ed not ed.It is just more effective for me.

 

[classy65gmc]

Wow,that sounds good, 6 lbs and -6%.

How long are you running the winny? ...I've heard of people running it for 8 weeks and longer, but that sounds too long 4 me( if winny is as bad for your liver/cholesterol levels as everyone says?).

If your body stats are close to mine (before), maybe i'll crank my dose up 2 50mg ED instead of EOD. Wasn't really sure, i've heard both ways.

Thanks to all for the insight! ...onemoreset

Take the winny 50 a day orally, the shots get old, 12 weeks on eq last 8 with winny. I lost alot of weight during the clen/t-3 cycle weeks 1-6 and gained back and then some at the end. PCT is going great with nolva and HCG havent lost any strength and only one pound( but I varie alot) Keep your diet clean and training intense and you will like this combo, Its a nice steady change thats not a noticable for those of us that can't be looked at as maybe doing something