eq w/ m1t

[jigga6]

Is it "safe" to cycle M1T w/ EQ? I came across some and was curious.

Thanks

 

[sparetire]

yeah perfectly fine. i'd run the m1t throughout the first half of the cycle up to 6 weeks and by then, the eq should start kicking in around 7-8. run the eq for atleast 12 weeks at 400mg a week.

 

[nipples]

man don't take m1t for more than four weeks, the shit is so hard on you and your liver, you might want to pick up some milk thistle. Plus man the sides from m1t are horrible take some cryp. or prop. up to week thirteen, then drop the eq at week 12.

 

[sparetire]

is it injectible m1t or oral? you can take it up to 8 weeks orally, but it is ruff...

 

[dugie65]

how long does it take for MIT to kick in??

just wondering, i've got half a bottle left and no dbol for next cycle. might as well

 

[yatesolympia]

man don't take m1t for more than four weeks, the shit is so hard on you and your liver, you might want to pick up some milk thistle. Plus man the sides from m1t are horrible take some cryp. or prop. up to week thirteen, then drop the eq at week 12.

I use M1t (17alpha methyl-17beta-hydroxy-androst-1-ene-3-one) post cycle being it doesnt effect natural test production , its chemically simular to d-bol it seems now that im looking at it D-bol = 17 beta-hydroxy-17alpha-methyl-1,4-androstadien-3-one. Anyways i took 10mg a day with 30mg D-bol Ed and 500mg test a week and the results were awesome but the sides sucked (blood pressure) i could actually hear my heart beating in my sleep constantly. Great supplement and think its uses post cycle being it doesnt stop natural test production may help people keep the weight they gain on cycle along with tribulis terretris and clomid if not boost gains between cycle.
Thats just my 2 cents

 

[nipples]

yea man taking m1t for 8 weeks would kill your liver, and your sex drive damn have you gone 8 weeks long as i've gone is 3 and half.

 

[yatesolympia]

yea man taking m1t for 8 weeks would kill your liver, and your sex drive damn have you gone 8 weeks long as i've gone is 3 and half.

I took the M1t for 4 weeks the same as the d-bol i have never had any major sides with anything, The M1t worked great but i wont do it again like that . Had to rely on GHB and Ambien to sleep , haha what ever you do dont stack it with d-bol and like nips said 4 weeks is more then enough , just until the eq kicks in. If your gonna use it longer drop the dosage down to 5mg a day and dont go over 15 at any time. Its 7-16 times more potent then Testosterone break that down and figure out what that is a week in test.

 

[Mythicalbeing]

Lots of people won't run M1t for more than 2 weeks at 10mgs or less. 2 weeks on and 2 off....tough stuff on the liver.

 

[nipples]

real tuff on the liver i run it at 20mgs for three to four weeks, can't go any longer than that, since my boys seem to retreat after that amount of time.

 

[Bigdogmikey]

what is M1T?

 

[bas4lizzife]

I use M1t (17alpha methyl-17beta-hydroxy-androst-1-ene-3-one) post cycle being it doesnt effect natural test production , its chemically simular to d-bol it seems now that im looking at it D-bol = 17 beta-hydroxy-17alpha-methyl-1,4-androstadien-3-one. Anyways i took 10mg a day with 30mg D-bol Ed and 500mg test a week and the results were awesome but the sides sucked (blood pressure) i could actually hear my heart beating in my sleep constantly. Great supplement and think its uses post cycle being it doesnt stop natural test production may help people keep the weight they gain on cycle along with tribulis terretris and clomid if not boost gains between cycle.
Thats just my 2 cents

are you kidding??? My buddy's balls were peanuts within a week off m1t

 

[jigga6]

one of my buddies cycled m1t as he came off deca and definantly didnt loose any gains from deca actually gained about 5 more i think its great pct, although im not sure about hormone wise

 

[sparetire]

real tuff on the liver i run it at 20mgs for three to four weeks, can't go any longer than that, since my boys seem to retreat after that amount of time.

LET ME guess you are a pro? Just because your livers are wussies, doesn't mean others aren't. You can safely run it up to 8 weeks, no problem. Stick to the real stuff girly man and dont' worry about us and our strong livers..

 

[nipples]

LET ME guess you are a pro? Just because you livers are wussies, doesn't mean others aren't. You can safely run it up to 8 weeks, no problem. Stick to the real stuff girly man and don't not (dont') worry about us and our stong livers..

No cunt fuck i'm not a pro or girlie man, spent three years of my young life in millitary school, in addition i know plenty of people who have taken it more than four weeks, and their balls were gone in their throats, their blood pressure was sky high, one of my buddies was throwing up blood, now to the liver. The shit eats your liver very bad, my dad's friend who has been bodybuilding for over 30's said that in the early 80's a lot of pros took it, and i'll quote what he said,"The shit fucks up your liver, I highly advise if you are going to take it cycle for no longer than three to four weeks on then a four to eight week break." By the way dip shit you only have one liver, you have two kidneys, get it liver, kidneys ( the s makes it plural girly man).

 

[BionicBC]

yeah perfectly fine. i'd run the m1t throughout the first half of the cycle up to 6 weeks and by then, the eq should start kicking in around 7-8. run the eq for atleast 12 weeks at 400mg a week.

M1T for 6 weeks? HELL NO! hell no. 2 weeks, 4 at MAX-Trust me though, by the 2nd or 3rd week, although you WILL be making gains from the M1T, you'll be begging to come off that sludge. Makes you feel like ASS.
Bionic

 

[fugetaboutit]

I use M1t (17alpha methyl-17beta-hydroxy-androst-1-ene-3-one) post cycle being it doesnt effect natural test production , its chemically simular to d-bol it seems now that im looking at it D-bol = 17 beta-hydroxy-17alpha-methyl-1,4-androstadien-3-one. Anyways i took 10mg a day with 30mg D-bol Ed and 500mg test a week and the results were awesome but the sides sucked (blood pressure) i could actually hear my heart beating in my sleep constantly. Great supplement and think its uses post cycle being it doesnt stop natural test production may help people keep the weight they gain on cycle along with tribulis terretris and clomid if not boost gains between cycle.
Thats just my 2 cents

BAD ADVICE. M1T shuts you down. Period. It is not for post cycle.

 

[fugetaboutit]

is it injectible m1t or oral? you can take it up to 8 weeks orally, but it is ruff...

MORE BAD ADVICE. I don't understand where you people come from. M1T for 8 weeks is horrible advice. M1T is more toxic than d-bol, and no respected bro here will tell you to run d-bol for 8 weeks. So why would you run M1T for 8 weeks?? 3-4 weeks tops, if you can stand feeling like shit everyday with that crap.

 

[nipples]

The shit frys your balls man.

 

[nipples]

sparetire take m1t for eight weeks and come back and tell us if your liver is in good condition and if you can still see your balls!!!!!!!!

 

[yatesolympia]

LET ME guess you are a pro? Just because you livers are wussies, doesn't mean others aren't. You can safely run it up to 8 weeks, no problem. Stick to the real stuff girly man and don't not (dont') worry about us and our stong livers..

No cunt fuck i'm not a pro or girlie man, spent three years of my young life in millitary school, in addition i know plenty of people who have taken it more than four weeks, and their balls were gone in their throats, their blood pressure was sky high, one of my buddies was throwing up blood, now to the liver. The shit eats your liver very bad, my dad's friend who has been bodybuilding for over 30's said that in the early 80's a lot of pros took it, and i'll quote what he said,"The shit fucks up your liver, I highly advise if you are going to take it cycle for no longer than three to four weeks on then a four to eight week break." By the way dip shit you only have one liver, you have two kidneys, get it liver, kidneys ( the s makes it plural girly man).

Your dads friends did'nt take M1t in the 80's bro it was just discovered within the last 4 years or so by accident, here is some info on M1t


Methyl 1-testosterone, or 17aa-1-testosterone, is the methylated version of the steroid 1-testosterone. This structural modification makes steroids much more orally bioavailable by inhibiting breakdown in the liver. Although it has only been widely available for a short period of time, feedback on this compound indicates that it may be the most effective legal prohormone/steroid product on the market regardless of delivery method, and it is hands down the most effective oral product. On the other hand, most users report a wealth of side effects, and this compound is not to be taken lightly. It does not have a long history of use or a well-established safety profile, and proper precautions should be taken.

The profile of methyl 1-test is similar to that of 1-test – it does not convert to estrogen, and it is highly anabolic and moderately androgenic (less than 1-test). When compared to orally administered methyltestosterone, methyl 1-test is 910-1600% as anabolic and 100-220% as androgenic.

The side effects reported by users of methyl 1-test are many and individual reactions vary considerably. The most commonly reported side effect is lethargy, which can range from mild to severe. Other common side effects include increased blood pressure, bloating, joint pains, cramps, mild headaches, insomnia, aggressiveness, and irritability. Many users also find that methyl 1-test decreases appetite, which can be harmful or beneficial depending on one's goals. These side effects can be reduced by lowering dosage or taking smaller doses more frequently. Combining it with another androgen (such as 4-AD) may also help, but feedback on this is limited.

Another concern with methyl 1-test (and methylated steroids in general) is hepatotoxicity. Although this tends to be exaggerated, it is still prudent to take certain precautions. First and foremost, other substances that are toxic to the liver (such as alcohol) should be avoided to avoid placing extra stress on the liver. If methyl 1-test is stacked, it would be best to stack it with something other than an oral steroid/prohormone, such as a transdermal. Milk thistle, alpha lipoic acid, and N-acetyl-cysteine are commonly recommended to help protect the liver. For further information on 17aa steroids and hepatotoxicity, see the following article:

Hepatotoxicity: Fact or Fiction,

When taking methyl 1-test, it is best to start out with at least a week at a dose of 5-10 mg to see how one reacts. Many users find this range to be effective, while others feel the ideal amount is 20-40 mg. It comes down to the experience, goals, and individual reaction. Many find a lower dose to be just as effective as a higher one, but with less side effects. With a compound such as this, it is generally best to err on the side of caution, especially for those that are less experienced with steroids. Most seem to find their ideal dose to be in the 10-30 mg range. Cycle length should be kept short, in the range of 1-4 weeks. Finally, it is especially important to take adequate time off after each cycle with this substance to allow the body to recover.

 

[hugeman1]

m1t is not d-bol, do a search, should run test as a base

 

[nipples]

That has no evidence proving that m1t wasn't used in the 80's, and if it is true maybe the guy was refering to dbol or is just way out of his league.

 

[Dieselgoku23]

I have taken M1T great gains but this shit is hard!!! shuts you down like a mofo!! and lethargy on this shit is insane I have taken up to 40mg no more then 4 weeks by the 3rd week I cant even go to the gym I'm so tired (lethargy). Here is my actual cycle
1-4 M1T 40mg
1-12 Test Ena 700 a week, week 5 bump to 1gram a week
1-12 EQ
Liquidex .5 eod

I think I might a mistake by kick starting my cycle with M1T I think it has actually saturaded my receptors, first 4 weeks gained total of 14lbs now going on week 6 and Test E have not kicked in yet or the EQ I have actually lost 4lbs strength still going up though, it might be due to my lean diet that I'm dieting yet gaining muscle a the same time who knows but I wouldnt stack this with real Test of any kinda mainly because it might saturated your receptors my .02 cents

 

[zano]

I used it for 3 weeks and I can vouch for lethargy! Tired as hell and appetite wasn't there by mid second week. There is probably a good reason why it says to only take it 15-29 days on the bottle.

 

[x_muscle]

I use M1t (17alpha methyl-17beta-hydroxy-androst-1-ene-3-one) post cycle being it doesnt effect natural test production , its chemically simular to d-bol it seems now that im looking at it D-bol = 17 beta-hydroxy-17alpha-methyl-1,4-androstadien-3-one. Anyways i took 10mg a day with 30mg D-bol Ed and 500mg test a week and the results were awesome but the sides sucked (blood pressure) i could actually hear my heart beating in my sleep constantly. Great supplement and think its uses post cycle being it doesnt stop natural test production may help people keep the weight they gain on cycle along with tribulis terretris and clomid if not boost gains between cycle.
Thats just my 2 cents

WTF idiot newbi..........M1T wont effect natral test production?! its shuts you completly down after 3 days. and you stack dbol with M1T? man i realy feel bad for your liver and your brain.

 

[yatesolympia]

WTF idiot newbi..........M1T wont effect natral test production?! its shuts you completly down after 3 days. and you stack dbol with M1T? man i realy feel bad for your liver and your brain.

I misread the article on the test shutdown i usually proof read before i post most of my posts are 100% accurate, as for feeling bad for my liver don't my liver values were normal throughout the entire cycle the only trouble i had was sleeping during the cycle which happens to me very often. Also as for it shutting you down after 3 days your probably 100% wrong i would imagine its much much faster being its methylated and 1600% more potent then testosterone 1 and has never been studied anything posted or suggested about methyl 1 is hypothetical.

 

[x_muscle]

I misread the article on the test shutdown i usually proof read before i post most of my posts are 100% accurate, as for feeling bad for my liver don't my liver values were normal throughout the entire cycle the only trouble i had was sleeping during the cycle which happens to me very often. Also as for it shutting you down after 3 days your probably 100% wrong i would imagine its much much faster being its methylated and 1600% more potent then testosterone 1 and has never been studied anything posted or suggested about methyl 1 is hypothetical.

ok.......you have no bussiness running steriods. M1T is one harsh steroid.

and yes M1T is more potent than testosterone. go to anabolicminds.com its a forum and search post under some one called super soldier, he did M1T cycle and did blood work every day for 2 weeks. he was completely was shut down after 3 days, and his cholestrol was very high.

nothing i say is hypothetical, ask every one who ran M1T. Lipid profile will also be destroyed after 2 weeks. HDL values will sky rocket.

 

[sparetire]

No cunt fuck i'm not a pro or girlie man, spent three years of my young life in millitary school, in addition i know plenty of people who have taken it more than four weeks, and their balls were gone in their throats, their blood pressure was sky high, one of my buddies was throwing up blood, now to the liver. The shit eats your liver very bad, my dad's friend who has been bodybuilding for over 30's said that in the early 80's a lot of pros took it, and i'll quote what he said,"The shit fucks up your liver, I highly advise if you are going to take it cycle for no longer than three to four weeks on then a four to eight week break." By the way dip shit you only have one liver, you have two kidneys, get it liver, kidneys ( the s makes it plural girly man).

Oh, so I should listen to someone who insults me right from the get go? I have personally never had any problems running it 4-6 weeks. Just because you can't handle anything more than a vitamin b-12 shot, doesn't make what you say so. Between you cussing like a 12 year old run-a-muck, and your purely subjective reasoning, doesn't mean it will happen (but you might just be a girly man). Anyhow, if you don't know anything, the liver can restore/heal itself, plus if you take liver supporting suppliments, you can probably do 4-6 weeks safely. I did say that running 8 weeks was going to be RUFF - just in case you didn't catch that - RUFF is implying bad side effects and feeling like crap (had to put that in for the feeble minded (nipples). And yes, I do know what I'm talking about when it comes to the injectibles. I have some sitting in my closet. So go twist your nipples and quit acting like a child just because I disagree with you.

and YATESOLYMPIA JUST OWNED YOU NIPPLES BY HIS REPLY.

 

[x_muscle]

I'd insult you, but you're not bright enough to notice.

do whatever you want man, its your body, but dont come crying.

peace

 

[sparetire]

The only bright bulb in your life is the one in the corner of your room buddy. I never said that I'd personally RUN it for 8 weeks, I just said it was possible. It's all of you guys who are reading more into it than not. Just chill out your freakin' juiced up monkeys and relax..it was just a discussion about prohormones...Hell, I don't even know if I'll ever use the 2 vials of it. I love aas 2 much to lower myself to that...I might give it to one of my wanna be juicing buds..

 

[nipples]

Listen up bitches i know how potent m1t is but for all you dumbass out their why would you want to put your health at risk for a steroid that recommends taking it no longer than 3 to 4 weeks, that is where i'm coming from i enjoy all the compitetion we all have with one another and just get carried away. My cousin abused orals between the ages of 16 to 25 and the mother trucker has the most fucked up liver in the world, his liver is so bad if he drinks alcohol he has a chance of death, because his liver can't filter it, he was 6 ft. and 240 lbs., now he is 6 ft. and 170 lbs. Out of curiosity Sparetire have you ever run m1t, and if you have did your balls shrink and did you get real lazy everybody i've spoke to many who have had similar sides and if you haven't get off the topic because i have taken it and i own you, you little slut. lol no harm done bro just a little compitetion.

 

[sparetire]

nips, okay bro. Yes I have used it before and other similar prohormones. My nuts get a little smaller, but nothing like when I'm on gear. I don't drink while I'm on prohormones, because I do realize that they are pretty potent to the liver. I can see why you get so upset on this topic, due to others in your life who have had serious problems with them. I'm just saying, that not all people who use it, have these kinds of problems. There are other m1t alternatives (same ingredients basically) that have been converted into intramuscular. I favor those over the actual oral 17 methyl testosterone. For instance, I have a product which I bought from synergy claiming the same type of results as m1t - and even better. I have yet to run it, due to my current heavy cycle of sust/eq. I'd like to run it for 6 weeks - it's delta-1-cyp by itself to see if the results are worth the crap. But, as for most prohormone experience for myself, I usually lose what I gain anyhow. But good fighting with you also -- slutbag .. lol. j/j