EQ thread

[i am what i am]

Alright. I need all the EQ guru's for this. I cannot find any research or literature stating that EQ should be run for longer than 12 weeks. Not one article states that EQ kicks in around 8 weeks. I see that recommended dosages run 400-600 mg/ew, so this is not a concern.

My questions are these:

1. Can someone please provide lab results, research or any type of literature that proves the argument that EQ kicks in 8 weeks into cycle. (not really a question)

2. Recommended cycles run from 8 - 10 - 12 weeks long. Now I know a lot of good bros on EF state that if not on a HRT then 12 week cycle is maximum. Then why do we state that EQ should be run to around 14-16 weeks?

3. EQ stays active in the body for approximately 4 weeks. So then running EQ to 12 weeks and stopping allows your body to continue to reep the benefits well into week 16?


Any help is appreciated. Thanks guys.

 

[i am what i am]

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[Makavelli]

The reason people say that about EQ is because the half life is so long and it's pretty mild. That's why I always front load it. The effects are prevelant within a week and by third week you're hitting the EQ stride. I've used it for cycles as short as 8 weeks with great results. In general though I recommend longer cycles with it.

 

[|3ossman]

i ran it for 12, felt it strong at week 9. i wasnt crazy about eq really, i got bad acne from it and the results werent THAT great. i wont do it again. 400mg/wk syrus eq is what i did stacked with 250mg/enan and some var. i will say this, i was cut and vascular as hell by week 12

 

[bas4lizzife]

I've never used EQ but dont buy the "8 weeks to kick in" thing. Perhaps it takes a couple months to notice new mass, but with a good frontload the drug should be active within 3-4 weeks. Planning on trying it for myself next run at 900/wk for 13 with 600/wk of Test for 14

 

[i am what i am]

The reason people say that about EQ is because the half life is so long and it's pretty mild. That's why I always front load it. The effects are prevelant within a week and by third week you're hitting the EQ stride. I've used it for cycles as short as 8 weeks with great results. In general though I recommend longer cycles with it.

Yeah. I hear a lot about frontloading EQ at 600-800 mg/ew for 2 weeks and then bumping it down to 400 mg the next 8 - 10 weeks. When you say longer cycles, you are saying 12 weeks +? I've used EQ before and like you said, felt it around week 3-4.

 

[|3ossman]

i frontloaded and it didnt make a difference

 

[i am what i am]

I'm not really big on frontloading. I just don't buy the whole it kicks in at week 8. Just never sat well with me.

Mr. X. Maybe we can have an EQ thread due to its popularity and the misconceptions surrounding it to solve this once and for all.

 

[Makavelli]

Yeah. I hear a lot about frontloading EQ at 600-800 mg/ew for 2 weeks and then bumping it down to 400 mg the next 8 - 10 weeks. When you say longer cycles, you are saying 12 weeks +? I've used EQ before and like you said, felt it around week 3-4.

You have to understand that when you inject any AAS it gets into your bloodstream quickly. How quickly your blood levels get to the optimal level though depends on the ester. You will start seeing results from as far as vascularity and strength increase in about a week. The full effects usually take about 2-3 weeks and that's with front loading. I usually use about 750-800 mgs/wk of EQ. So I'll front load 1.2 grams the first week, 1 g the second, and then down to 800 mgs for the remainder. By long cycles I mean 12 weeks and over.

 

[i am what i am]

You have to understand that when you inject any AAS it gets into your bloodstream quickly. How quickly your blood levels get to the optimal level though depends on the ester. You will start seeing results from as far as vascularity and strength increase in about a week. The full effects usually take about 2-3 weeks and that's with front loading. I usually use about 750-800 mgs/wk of EQ. So I'll front load 1.2 grams the first week, 1 g the second, and then down to 800 mgs for the remainder. By long cycles I mean 12 weeks and over.

Ok sweet. Good to know Mak. Thanks for all your info shared.

 

[TheRide]

Alright. I need all the EQ guru's for this. I cannot find any research or literature stating that EQ should be run for longer than 12 weeks. Not one article states that EQ kicks in around 8 weeks. I see that recommended dosages run 400-600 mg/ew, so this is not a concern.

My questions are these:

1. Can someone please provide lab results, research or any type of literature that proves the argument that EQ kicks in 8 weeks into cycle. (not really a question)

2. Recommended cycles run from 8 - 10 - 12 weeks long. Now I know a lot of good bros on EF state that if not on a HRT then 12 week cycle is maximum. Then why do we state that EQ should be run to around 14-16 weeks?

3. EQ stays active in the body for approximately 4 weeks. So then running EQ to 12 weeks and stopping allows your body to continue to reep the benefits well into week 16?


Any help is appreciated. Thanks guys.

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I don't have any lab results but I do have about 10 EQ cycles under my belt. You probably WON'T find any lab results either due to the fact the Equipose was never intended for human consumption. I have run EQ in 10-12 week spans b/c I also believe that given the long acting eather properties, 12 weeks is an active 14-16 weeks for the active chemical.

Ulter has also posted some great info in the past on the dangers of running high EQ dosages (800mg+) for an extender period of time. I don't recall exactly what he said I can do recall it was related to your elevated red blood cell counts...

Hope that helps bro.

 

[i am what i am]

Thanks man. Yeah EQ helps stimulate the release of erythropoeitin. Its more widely known as EPO. Its what all those olympic cross country skiers were taking. It is also what LA was accused of taking. It signals the body to increase red blood cells. Its great if your endurance athlete. Its also one of the reasons why EQ is so good with vascularity.

 

[DieselGunz]

Ok Mak you convinced me I am front loading!

 

[Makavelli]

Ok Mak you convinced me I am front loading!

Cool bro. Let us know how it works out.

 

[krishna]

I think the reason a lot of us say to run it 12+ is from experience. Weeks 9-14 seem to give me the best results; but then again, I've never front-loaded like mak said. I probably will next time.

 

[Makavelli]

When I did my shoot my cycle only lasted 9 weeks. I think the results are obvious. The results are better with longer cycles, but short ones will work too.

 

[uglyass]

Front load is the way to go with EQ IMO.

UglyASS

 

[LVTitan]

i dont know about any lab reports, but i am a big fan of eq. i can tell you that the real gains never started becoming apparant until well after the 6 week mark as far as hunger. about 5 weeks is when the vascularity becomes apparant, and i really feel like it is working around week 8-9..
this is from personal experience.
i have frontloaded it ,and i have just ran it at a normal dose from the beginning.
i've run it at 600mg/week and i've run it at 400mg/week. and i am on it now at 400mg/week along with deca at 400mg/week.
i will also run it for another 7-8 weeks after i come off the deca.

 

[immortalis]

The reason people say that about EQ is because the half life is so long and it's pretty mild. That's why I always front load it. The effects are prevelant within a week and by third week you're hitting the EQ stride. I've used it for cycles as short as 8 weeks with great results. In general though I recommend longer cycles with it.

What he said. The long half life keeps most people from feeling the effects until fairly late in their cycle, so most people extend it to around 14 weeks when using EQ.

I personally cant really run a cycle that long... well, I really just plain dont want to. Thats why I stick to test mostly and keep mine between 8-12 weeks depending upon what I wanna accomplish.