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EQ Cycle Critique

wayneboard1

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OK I am looking at the following for my first cycle, and am getting some conflicting feedback on the PCT or supps while on and after completion of EQ. I REALLY want to dial in the PCT to not only keep any gains I get but also keep me as "normal" as possible with little or no crash. Any constructive feedback is GREATLY appreciated.

EQ - 400 a week for 15 weeks. (no tapering down towards the end and no front loading)

Nolva - 10-20 ml a day for 15 weeks.

I have been told Vit. B6 at 200 mg a day for the entire cycle both eq and pct is a good thing but I am still looking into why this helps. If anyone knows feel free to enlighten me.


This is where I am getting differing info and a bit confused.

At week 15 take 2 weeks off (obviosuly since cycle of EQ is done here) all the while taking nolva and then after those 2 weeks start 3 weeks of clomid tapering down from 300 at start to 50 at end pf the 3 weeks.

The flip side of advice given is to start clomid within the last 2 weeks of the EQ and only take Nolva if sides start to present themselves.

And last but of course not least is the 3rd option I was given. Take the clomid the whole time. This seems totally wrong after what I have read about clomid but I am of course not an expert.

FInally, the procedure itself. I am going to use a 22 gauge syringe at 1.5" since i can use my adorable little hind end once a week without scar tissue being an issue. I am also aware of how to inject safely thanks to AJC's anaboloc reference and past experience. (GREAT read by the way) and that I will need at least 15 sticks but will have a few extra just in case as well as Alcohol swabs. I may get a few 1" sticks in case I decide to use my quad to change it up a bit.

SO, how close or far off am I? I think I am now down to fine tuning the process and hope my "research" not only shows but will pay off. I would really appreciate your guys help to nail this thing down so I do it right the first time. You know what they say, "Measure twice, cut once". :)
 
wayneboard1 said:
OK I am looking at the following for my first cycle, and am getting some conflicting feedback on the PCT or supps while on and after completion of EQ. I REALLY want to dial in the PCT to not only keep any gains I get but also keep me as "normal" as possible with little or no crash. Any constructive feedback is GREATLY appreciated.

EQ - 400 a week for 15 weeks. (no tapering down towards the end and no front loading)

Nolva - 10-20 ml a day for 15 weeks.

I have been told Vit. B6 at 200 mg a day for the entire cycle both eq and pct is a good thing but I am still looking into why this helps. If anyone knows feel free to enlighten me.


This is where I am getting differing info and a bit confused.

At week 15 take 2 weeks off (obviosuly since cycle of EQ is done here) all the while taking nolva and then after those 2 weeks start 3 weeks of clomid tapering down from 300 at start to 50 at end pf the 3 weeks.

The flip side of advice given is to start clomid within the last 2 weeks of the EQ and only take Nolva if sides start to present themselves.

And last but of course not least is the 3rd option I was given. Take the clomid the whole time. This seems totally wrong after what I have read about clomid but I am of course not an expert.

FInally, the procedure itself. I am going to use a 22 gauge syringe at 1.5" since i can use my adorable little hind end once a week without scar tissue being an issue. I am also aware of how to inject safely thanks to AJC's anaboloc reference and past experience. (GREAT read by the way) and that I will need at least 15 sticks but will have a few extra just in case as well as Alcohol swabs. I may get a few 1" sticks in case I decide to use my quad to change it up a bit.

SO, how close or far off am I? I think I am now down to fine tuning the process and hope my "research" not only shows but will pay off. I would really appreciate your guys help to nail this thing down so I do it right the first time. You know what they say, "Measure twice, cut once". :)

Just EQ first cycle? Why not run it with test, I did for my first.

If you're taking Nolva to control bloat I don't think you really need it for just EQ because EQ doesn't bloat you.
 
WannaBeBig72 said:
Just EQ first cycle? Why not run it with test, I did for my first.

If you're taking Nolva to control bloat I don't think you really need it for just EQ because EQ doesn't bloat you.


Yeah I have had a ton of people tell me to run it with some test. However, after doing the research I think EQ will be the best thing FOR ME to run to see how I respond to it both good and bad, and thats all the finances will allow at this time.
 
I think you'll be fine with eq only as a 1st cycle. If your over 180lbs then I'd up the eq to 500mg..
 
I was about to say if you 1800 plus you might want to up the dose to 500 maybe even 600. I hear a lot of people say they don't see results at doses under 500, but I've never done it before so I'm not sure. I will be doing it in a cycle this summer though.
 
Outtlaw said:
I think you'll be fine with eq only as a 1st cycle. If your over 180lbs then I'd up the eq to 500mg..

Yeah I am about 208 right now so I will look into bumping it up a bit. Damm this is gonna be expensive...lol...but when you are poor everything is expensive isn't it? :evil:
 
you won't need nolva during your cycle just at the end. if you get puffy nips during the cycle, run arimidex for the last half. stay away from clomid, too many negatives and emotional roller coast rides (depression).
 
so for PCT you would suggest NOT using clomid but arimidex? I have to admit I am not at all wanting the gyno and want to be proactive on that. What (other than the potential cost) is a negative to running arimidex the entire time at maybe a lower dosage? Thanks for the help guys, this is just what I need to dial it in and do it right.


sparetire said:
you won't need nolva during your cycle just at the end. if you get puffy nips during the cycle, run arimidex for the last half. stay away from clomid, too many negatives and emotional roller coast rides (depression).
 
:RADAR You'll like EQ it wont leave you bloated,but instead you'll be more ripped and vascular as long as your diet is in check.Your doing great by not trying to tapper,because tappering in my opinion does'nt work at all.One more thing make sure you put money aside for your grocery BILL,because your appitite is going to go threw the roof.Take Care Peace.
 
TRAINHD said:
:RADAR You'll like EQ it wont leave you bloated,but instead you'll be more ripped and vascular as long as your diet is in check.Your doing great by not trying to tapper,because tappering in my opinion does'nt work at all.One more thing make sure you put money aside for your grocery BILL,because your appitite is going to go threw the roof.Take Care Peace.

Thanks man and yeah I look forward to not being bloated. I hate that feeling and don't want to deal with it. The mroe defined look is a better choice I think. I have heard lots of guys say they get super hungry and others say not much of a change. I hope I am not one of the ones thta gets super hungry. I will just have to ignore it sometimes I guess. I would hate to be so hungry I give in at work or something and eat some vending machine garbage.
 
I use eq 400mg and it gives me the vascularity that i'm always looking for, it always work with me.


shamrock11 said:
I was about to say if you 1800 plus you might want to up the dose to 500 maybe even 600. I hear a lot of people say they don't see results at doses under 500, but I've never done it before so I'm not sure. I will be doing it in a cycle this summer though.
 
i think it is a great first cycle, the more i learn about eq and the huge appetite it gives i see lots of people get test like results from only eq and keep it all. outlaw is right tough may wanna run 500-600, a lot more effective at that dose. good luck
 
Week 3 is coming up and i can't wait for it to kick! Running a front-load of 1000-1000-800 then dropping back to my baseline of 600mgs.
 
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