I took Ttokkyo d-bol @50mgs/day for the first five weeks.
And just between you and me, I still take 50 mgs of d-bol on arm days. In fact, I just got back from doing arms on lunch. I take the d-bol for the insane pump, and strength increase.
I've taken EQ by itself at 600 mgs a week with great gains. Keep in mind that they were SLOW!!
I don't start seeing major gains with EQ until around week 6. And they continue up to 3 weeks after discontinuation of use.
That's why I took the d-bol up front, so I would gain up front, and not psyche myself out like the EQ wasn't working.