EQ and Sust...

[Crysis6]

I am about to begin my cycle. I am going to run 400mg of EQ straight through, with 250mg sust. I am thinking of bumping that up to 4 or 500 after the first 2 weeks...but I would like to avoid the harshness of the side effects, as I am prone to acne but not hair loss. I dont need massive gains, plus my body generally reacts quickly. Would 250 be enough all the way through to see decent gains that I can keep without getting bloated. I would like to add about 15lbs of muscle throughout the cycle. Also, for a PCT I just ordered AIFM which I will take throughout, and I am waivering between nolva and clomid, although I think I am going to get some clomid if I can find it. Any input on this cycle and the PCT would be appreciated.

 

[OMEGA]

250 enough for libido and T levels, but
most would opt for 400 / 400

 

[Ulter]

Use the same doses throughout the cycle. Your diet and training will determine your results not the dosing, at that level.

 

[palehorse51]

Stick with the 250 throughout. good plan stick with it. water is not muscle.

 

[Crysis6]

Would 400 be a good median between limiting the side effects and getting gains from the gear? I have never ran sust before, so Im not sure how hard my body will react to it, I ran primo and tren last year with pretty decent gains, and few if any side effects. Im going to split the EQ up wed. and sat. Would it be better to split the sust up as well, or take it all at one time on wed. with the EQ?

 

[Crysis6]

Thats what I was thinking initially, Im not going for the bloated, be big just to be big look. I just want solid gains, like I said, I would like 15lbs or so of muscle, and to keep my cuts (define them a bit more of course). I dont have much body fat, but of course would like to shed a little bit from my ab area to bring them out more. Thats kinda what Im going for. But I am a little skinny, at least my arms and waist, so I need to bulk up there.

 

[mikefear]

15 lbs of muscle is a lot.. but not entirely impossible.. train hard, eat a lot, get your rest.

 

[Crysis6]

Yes, well I always eat right. Very rarely to I cheat off of my protien and good carb diet. The training part Im looking forward to the boost. Rest is the difficult one, but they recently cut back my hours at work, so I should be ok. Even if I gain 10lbs I will be happy, so long as I am nice and cut up. hehe What about the PCT? AIFM and clomid good? And id prefer not to have the ag guys liquid, any other suggestions?

 

[palehorse51]

2x a week for both good to go. sat/ wed or whatever. will keep test levels more even=less sides. put them both in the same syringe for injection. the eq will dilute the sus=low pain inject. less pokes=better. peace
clomid aifm good. REMEMBER: 250 might seem low to some for sus, but the EQ and sus are gonna have a nice synergistic effect off of each other, thus boosting the power of each. be patient it will take about 2 weeks to really start feeling. you are gonna like.

 

[Crysis6]

Sounds good. Ill keep my dosage at 250-300, but keep it constant throughout. Yea, same syringe always a plus, much easier. Thanks for the advice.

 

[jetty]

3/4 of a CC twice a week will yield 375 mg of Sust. if my math is correct. Not a bad dosage to keep sides at bay and see how your body will respond. Definitely want to do at least two injections a week with the Sust.

 

[babbabuee]

what if you ran it e4d or e5d?

 

[Crysis6]

I would like to have decent results by vacation time in 8 weeks, so I wanna stay on a weekly schedule. Although if I would have better results that way, (or less sides) id be all for it of course.

 

[Crysis6]

Ok.. I hit a little snag. My dude cant get EQ for me, but said he can get tren. I need some info on how and if I should go with tren/sust, and with that, how often and how much tren should i take. I prefer not doing ED, Id rather something like 3 a week...but if that will cause problems then Ill have to deal. My goals are given in the beginning of this thread, I got AIFM and clomid for PCT. AIFM i will use when on. Any suggestions on whether this is a decent way to go would be appreciated.

 

[MR. BMJ]

If you are gonna go with tren as an alternative to Eq, i'd opt for switching the Sustenon to Test Propionate. Just load both the Tren/prop in a single syringe together and shoot ED.

You will want to shoot the Tren ED....hence the reason for the Prop.

BMJ

 

[Crysis6]

Already got the sust, and i dont think he can get anything else. ughh...i hate being limited. What problems would arise shooting EOD or 3X a week? Im only going to run about 300mg sust a week, see above for the plan. This changes everything tho, damn.

 

[MR. BMJ]

Just shoot the tren ED.

If you can shoot the sust at 250mg every 3 days, i'd do that.

Is your sust UG? 300mg/ml or 250mg/ml?

There is always the option of waiting until you can design the cycle that you want. Don't feel as if you need to rush into anything.

BMJ

 

[Crysis6]

I would love to do that, but I know I will be going away to panama city in March. Gotta get prepped for my once a year vacation. Im only going to do 300mg a week of sust (250 btw). Im 5'6 140, and I want solid gains and to shred up a little bit. I also want to avoid as many sides as I can, so the plan was to maintain the lower amount of sust throughout. This has messed my whole plan up though, so I just want to figure out if I should run with the tren or not. Hate to do ED, especially since I just rotate left and right glute.

 

[resqguy]

I would love to do that, but I know I will be going away to panama city in March. Gotta get prepped for my once a year vacation. Im only going to do 300mg a week of sust (250 btw). Im 5'6 140, and I want solid gains and to shred up a little bit. I also want to avoid as many sides as I can, so the plan was to maintain the lower amount of sust throughout. This has messed my whole plan up though, so I just want to figure out if I should run with the tren or not. Hate to do ED, especially since I just rotate left and right glute.

Wait...you're 5'6", 140lbs and you want to "shred up a little bit?" Bro...wow...at that height/weight you should already BE shredded up. What's your diet like?

 

[Crysis6]

Heh, im cut up, I guess as I get bigger Ill have a more shredded look. I have been only eating protien and good carbs (brown rice, whole wheat) for the last few months. Diet has been pretty strict. Upped my protien intake to prepare for the hard training im about to go through... But I want to put on as much lean mass as possible... what i meant by shredding up is that i didnt want to just put on mass just to be bigger, i want to add lean mass.