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Super Test 2004
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I am hearing that EQ and anxiety go hand in hand. Is this true?
What about Deca or Test?
Any experiences.
What about Deca or Test?
Any experiences.
EQ and Anxiety
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Super Test 2004
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I have used Deca and had no problems. I am also prone to Anxiety, which is why I asked. I was considering EQ.
randyjones
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eq gave me terrible anxiety.I have always had an anxiety problem and I take klonipin for it.While on test I feel a little bit more anxiety but with 500mgs a week of eq I could not take it.I felt like I was going nuts.
Super Test 2004
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Anxiety acted up while on test too. that sux.
Little Rage
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there are many posts regarding this on the board. It has been debated if and how it causes anxiety.
I just posted this on one of mavy's recent posts.
I feel with many it is a placebo effect, but there are the cases of people having no previous knowledge of a possible increase of anxiety with its usage; and it does affect these people.
There have been reports of people getting anxiety from other substances too, such as tren and even test. Now it could be due to previous anxiety problems, a placebo effect, or just attributed to events causing anxiety in their life.
I personally have noticed an increase in anxiety with just about every type of gear i have used: though to different degrees. I have had anxiety problems before i started to use gear and it has continued while off cycle. I was ready for a slight increase in anxiety with eq, but it put me in a complete wreck at times. Then i tried tren, i was ready for anxiety to knock me on my ass b/c of its anxiety myths. However i experienced 0 to minimal increase in anxiety, and 2 bad attacks lasting about 5min. when i was on eq, my anxiety attacks lasted up to 1:30 HOURS!!! Now i'm not ignorant and won't deny that some of my anxiety is due to personal reasons and such, but i have never had an anxiety attack lasting over 15min or so. And when on eq, an attack of 45min-1hr was not uncommon. They were even in the range of 6-12 a week (i believe i had 15 in 3 days).
Originally posted by: fukkenshredded
"EQ stimulates erythropoiesis, which can lead to high BP very quickly and anxiety can result from this alone.
Increased blood volume explains both anxiety as well as increased appetite. Its not across the board, but will affect many this way more often than not."
I also came across this study from a previous post:
Although the study does not deal with EQ specifically, I would be surprised if it did not have the same anxiety inducing effects as the other drugs.
It is also thought that anabolic steroids also act on the body's natural opioid system to somehow induce anxiety and aggressiveness.
The abstract shows that certain anabolic steroids increase the metabolism of serotinin, leading to low levels of serotonin in the body. This could be responsible for the anxiety felt by many steroid users, as well as for "roid rage" ( I personally think that a jerk will remain a jerk, and a mellow person will remain mellow on steroids.) It is particularly interesting that anadrol was the only agent to raise monamine oxidase levels. This is a key enzyme responsible for metabolizing serotonin. Anandrol is notorious for increasing aggression.
Br J Pharmacol 1999 Mar;126(6):1301-6
Increased dopaminergic and 5-hydroxytryptaminergic activities in male rat brain following long-term treatment with anabolic androgenic steroids.
Thiblin I, Finn A, Ross SB, Stenfors C.
Department of Forensic Medicine, Karolinska Institute, Stockholm, Sweden.
1. The effects of treating groups of rats with four different anabolic androgenic steroids (AAS) (testosterone, nandrolone methandrostenolone, and oxymetholone) on 5hydroxytryptamine (5-HT) and dopamine (DA) neurones in different brain regions were examined. The AAS was injected six times with 1 week's interval and the rats were sacrificed 2 days after the final injection. 5-HT and its metabolite 5-hydroxyindoleacetic acid (5-HIAA), DA and its metabolites 3,4-dihydroxyphenylacetic acid (DOPAC) and homovanillic acid (HVA) were measured. The effect on DA and 5-HT synthesis rate was analysed as the accumulation of 3,4-dihydroxyphenyl-alanine (DOPA) and 5-hydroxytryptophan (5-HTP), respectively, after inhibition of the amino acid
decarboxylase with NSD-1015 (3-hydroxy-benzylhydrazine dihydrochloride). Additionally, the monoamine oxidase (MAO) activity was analysed in the hypothalamus. 2. The DOPAC + HVA/DA ratio was increased in the striatum in all treatment groups. However, the synthesis rate of DA was significantly increased only in the methandrostenolone treated group. 3. The 5-HIAA/5-HT ratio was increased in all treatment groups in the hippocampus, in the frontal cortex in the methandrostenolone-treated animals and in the hypothalamus in the testosterone- and oxymetholone-treated rats, while the 5-HT synthesis rate was not affected by the AAS-treatments. 4. The MAO-A activity was increased in the oxymetholone-treated rats while the other treatment groups were unaffected. The MAO-B activity was not changed. 5. The results indicate that relatively high doses of AAS increase dopaminergic and 5-hydroxytryptaminergic metabolism in male rat brain, probably due to enhanced turnover in these monaminergic systems
Anyway you look at it, I don't think we will have a definite explanation of this for a long time... if ever.
I just posted this on one of mavy's recent posts.
I feel with many it is a placebo effect, but there are the cases of people having no previous knowledge of a possible increase of anxiety with its usage; and it does affect these people.
There have been reports of people getting anxiety from other substances too, such as tren and even test. Now it could be due to previous anxiety problems, a placebo effect, or just attributed to events causing anxiety in their life.
I personally have noticed an increase in anxiety with just about every type of gear i have used: though to different degrees. I have had anxiety problems before i started to use gear and it has continued while off cycle. I was ready for a slight increase in anxiety with eq, but it put me in a complete wreck at times. Then i tried tren, i was ready for anxiety to knock me on my ass b/c of its anxiety myths. However i experienced 0 to minimal increase in anxiety, and 2 bad attacks lasting about 5min. when i was on eq, my anxiety attacks lasted up to 1:30 HOURS!!! Now i'm not ignorant and won't deny that some of my anxiety is due to personal reasons and such, but i have never had an anxiety attack lasting over 15min or so. And when on eq, an attack of 45min-1hr was not uncommon. They were even in the range of 6-12 a week (i believe i had 15 in 3 days).
Originally posted by: fukkenshredded
"EQ stimulates erythropoiesis, which can lead to high BP very quickly and anxiety can result from this alone.
Increased blood volume explains both anxiety as well as increased appetite. Its not across the board, but will affect many this way more often than not."
I also came across this study from a previous post:
Although the study does not deal with EQ specifically, I would be surprised if it did not have the same anxiety inducing effects as the other drugs.
It is also thought that anabolic steroids also act on the body's natural opioid system to somehow induce anxiety and aggressiveness.
The abstract shows that certain anabolic steroids increase the metabolism of serotinin, leading to low levels of serotonin in the body. This could be responsible for the anxiety felt by many steroid users, as well as for "roid rage" ( I personally think that a jerk will remain a jerk, and a mellow person will remain mellow on steroids.) It is particularly interesting that anadrol was the only agent to raise monamine oxidase levels. This is a key enzyme responsible for metabolizing serotonin. Anandrol is notorious for increasing aggression.
Br J Pharmacol 1999 Mar;126(6):1301-6
Increased dopaminergic and 5-hydroxytryptaminergic activities in male rat brain following long-term treatment with anabolic androgenic steroids.
Thiblin I, Finn A, Ross SB, Stenfors C.
Department of Forensic Medicine, Karolinska Institute, Stockholm, Sweden.
1. The effects of treating groups of rats with four different anabolic androgenic steroids (AAS) (testosterone, nandrolone methandrostenolone, and oxymetholone) on 5hydroxytryptamine (5-HT) and dopamine (DA) neurones in different brain regions were examined. The AAS was injected six times with 1 week's interval and the rats were sacrificed 2 days after the final injection. 5-HT and its metabolite 5-hydroxyindoleacetic acid (5-HIAA), DA and its metabolites 3,4-dihydroxyphenylacetic acid (DOPAC) and homovanillic acid (HVA) were measured. The effect on DA and 5-HT synthesis rate was analysed as the accumulation of 3,4-dihydroxyphenyl-alanine (DOPA) and 5-hydroxytryptophan (5-HTP), respectively, after inhibition of the amino acid
decarboxylase with NSD-1015 (3-hydroxy-benzylhydrazine dihydrochloride). Additionally, the monoamine oxidase (MAO) activity was analysed in the hypothalamus. 2. The DOPAC + HVA/DA ratio was increased in the striatum in all treatment groups. However, the synthesis rate of DA was significantly increased only in the methandrostenolone treated group. 3. The 5-HIAA/5-HT ratio was increased in all treatment groups in the hippocampus, in the frontal cortex in the methandrostenolone-treated animals and in the hypothalamus in the testosterone- and oxymetholone-treated rats, while the 5-HT synthesis rate was not affected by the AAS-treatments. 4. The MAO-A activity was increased in the oxymetholone-treated rats while the other treatment groups were unaffected. The MAO-B activity was not changed. 5. The results indicate that relatively high doses of AAS increase dopaminergic and 5-hydroxytryptaminergic metabolism in male rat brain, probably due to enhanced turnover in these monaminergic systems
Anyway you look at it, I don't think we will have a definite explanation of this for a long time... if ever.
J
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Anxiety from AAS can be attributed to a number of different things: insomnia, high BP, increase blood flow circulaton, rising testosterone levels, etc. I don't see why one would get anxiety from EQ and not experience the same thing from Test.
MrRTTB
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EQ gave me anxiety. Didn't want to see anyone for a while, didn't speak to people and liked beeing alone. I was figuring out what I was going to do for the rest of my life(jobs and so on) and that is nothing I have ever thought or worried about before.
I was on 200mg EQ EOD but then I lowered and started 200mg Every third day. Then It went away
I was on 200mg EQ EOD but then I lowered and started 200mg Every third day. Then It went away
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