Epistine 60 & Winnie

[omega910]

What are your thoughts on a epistine and winnie cycle?

Thanks for your input

 

[joeblow12345]

Stats including age?

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[omega910]

30 Years old.

Have been training for well over 8 years. Cleaner diet. Have teken a couple months off to heal my shoulder and now getting back into it. Looing for a leaner cycle with not a crazy amount of bulk gain,

Thanks

 

[omega910]

Anyone have any thoughts?

 

[joeblow12345]

I think you should just run the epistane and some test. The winny is hell on joints and if you had a shoulder injury that probably wont go well. The epi will give solid lean gains alone but if you wanna stack some test with it then that would be good also.

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[omega910]

I have the option for either Test E or Sust. Any thoughts to which? Can you think of anything else to add in? Possibly HCGenerate midway?

Also trying to work on the PCT. Keep seeing different opinions on which is better nolva or clomid...

Or would a PCT from NTBM be better ?

 

[thedarkhalf]

winny is pretty much pointless unless you are stepping onto the stage man.....anavar would be a better choice IMO.

 

[joeblow12345]

I have the option for either Test E or Sust. Any thoughts to which? Can you think of anything else to add in? Possibly HCGenerate midway?

Also trying to work on the PCT. Keep seeing different opinions on which is better nolva or clomid...

Or would a PCT from NTBM be better ?

Nolva is shit. If you look around at different threads you will see that. Lots of failed pct's are the direct result of nolva because it doesnt restore hpta function. Instead I suggest you stack clomid with the ntbm products. Here is how I would run it.
1-12 test e 500 mg week
1-6 epistane 40 mg day
1-6 n2guard
1-12 adex 0.5 mg e3d or as needed
6-10 hcgenerate
10-14 hcg 250 ius 2xs a week
14-18 clomid 25 mg day
14-18 postcycle/unleashed
14-18 DAA
18-22 bridge from ntbm.

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