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Epistane first cycle checklist

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fishtaco254

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Hey everyone I have done some research and wanted to just get any last bit of advice before I start my first 4 week cycle. I had some guy at a supp shop sell me monsterplex but after doing some research found it's way too potent. I am 6' 180 12%bf 24yrs old. Trying to pack on 10-15 pounds of muscle and cut 2% bf at least. Is this realistic on epi? I have my diet in check and was on EC stack for a while but couldn't do cardio, made my hr too high. Here was the cycle I was going to go with. Was wondering if there was any of these I should start taking at week 2?

1-8 liv-52
1-4 EPI-30mg a day
1-4 On cycle Support
1-4 N2Guard
1-4 Need2Slin
PCT
5-8 Forged PCT
5-8 Forma Stanazol
5-8 HCGenerate 4 Caps a day
5-8 DAA 3grams a day
 
Careful not to overload on milk thistle while on cycle. Too much of a good thing isn't always a good thing

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no this cycle set up is all off bro... you don't need the liver support, you need n2guard... liver support doesn't protect you from bp and other things that n2guard does... i fixed the layout for you...

1-6 epi 40/40/60/60/60/80
1-6 n2guard
1-6 hcgenerate
3-10 forma stanzol mrsupps.com

pct week 7-10

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clomid 25/25/25/25 chemicalneed.com
Unleashed/post cycle combo
daa powerchews or powder

optional
ostarine 25 mg day uniquemicals.com[/FONT]
 
dylangemelli said:
no this cycle set up is all off bro... you don't need the liver support, you need n2guard... liver support doesn't protect you from bp and other things that n2guard does... i fixed the layout for you...

1-6 epi 40/40/60/60/60/80
1-6 n2guard
1-6 hcgenerate
3-10 forma stanzol mrsupps.com

pct week 7-10

[FONT=&quot]
clomid 25/25/25/25 chemicalneed.com
Unleashed/post cycle combo
daa powerchews or powder

optional
ostarine 25 mg day uniquemicals.com[/FONT]
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imo, this setup F#$%ing rocks. Not too expensive and you are guranteed to keep every pound of hard earned LBM.

Do it this way, (with the ostarine) and you wont be disappointed.
 
digit0x said:
imo, this setup F#$%ing rocks. Not too expensive and you are guranteed to keep every pound of hard earned LBM.

Do it this way, (with the ostarine) and you wont be disappointed.
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Thank you my friend... Very well said =)



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Dylan, curious as too if going higher towards the end of the cycle will make it much harder for the body to balance out going into PCT? Also how long is ostarine run and does it need PCT afterwords? I am running almost exact same cycle right now
 
SinisterUproar said:
Dylan, curious as too if going higher towards the end of the cycle will make it much harder for the body to balance out going into PCT? Also how long is ostarine run and does it need PCT afterwords? I am running almost exact same cycle right now
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ph's and designer steroids are normally tapered upward at the end and that is why hcgenerate is used alongside, to transition smoothly into pct...

ostarine can be run up to 12 weeks and yes you need a mini pct afterwords... its only 3 weeks and no serm is necessary... it consists of the unleashed/post cycle combo and bridge (double dosed)
 
Hey just one last question... I am going to order epistrong and they say to do it with a 4 week cycle. Is that true or can I stick to this plan that dylan gave me? These are 15mg pills so what dosing breakdown should I use? Also it says you don't need any estrogen blocker with it. Is that true? Thanks, sorry for the n00b questions, just wanna get this right.
 
fishtaco254 said:
Hey just one last question... I am going to order epistrong and they say to do it with a 4 week cycle. Is that true or can I stick to this plan that dylan gave me? These are 15mg pills so what dosing breakdown should I use? Also it says you don't need any estrogen blocker with it. Is that true? Thanks, sorry for the n00b questions, just wanna get this right.
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You " shouldn't " need an AI on cycle but have some on hand cause you can never be too safe. Post cycle is where you want to watch for the rebound gyno. Have it on hand the entire cycle though
 
What about the dosage? Should I do two caps a day so 30mg a day for 4 weeks? Or do the 6 week and taper it up at the end?what's the suggested AI?
 
fishtaco254 said:
What about the dosage? Should I do two caps a day so 30mg a day for 4 weeks? Or do the 6 week and taper it up at the end?what's the suggested AI?
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Doesn't hurt to start at 30 taper your way up to 60. Adex aromasin or formastanzol will all do the trick if your in a bind
 
Using 3 to start, 4 for middle and 5 for last week keeps you within 5mg of dylans recommendations the entire cycle.

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fishtaco254 said:
Hey everyone I have done some research and wanted to just get any last bit of advice before I start my first 4 week cycle. I had some guy at a supp shop sell me monsterplex but after doing some research found it's way too potent. I am 6' 180 12%bf 24yrs old. Trying to pack on 10-15 pounds of muscle and cut 2% bf at least. Is this realistic on epi? I have my diet in check and was on EC stack for a while but couldn't do cardio, made my hr too high. Here was the cycle I was going to go with. Was wondering if there was any of these I should start taking at week 2?

1-8 liv-52
1-4 EPI-30mg a day
1-4 On cycle Support
1-4 N2Guard
1-4 Need2Slin
PCT
5-8 Forged PCT
5-8 Forma Stanazol
5-8 HCGenerate 4 Caps a day
5-8 DAA 3grams a day
Click to expand...

You got all the cycle advice you need already, so you're all set in that dept. I was just going to say you might want to temper your expectations a bit. 15lbs of muscle while cutting 2% bf seems awfully steep for a 4 week cycle of Epi.

You will surely get some nice lean gains though provided your diet and training are in check. Good luck and have fun
 
How are you getting on with this stack, have you started it?

Would you guys suggest the same dose for Iron Labs - Epi Xtreme?
 
Hey so I need two bottles of n2 guard to get me through a 6 week cycle? Or can I stretch it out to last me 6 weeks. Same with HCGenerate or do I need to buy two bottles?
 
Hey everyone, I FINALLY started the cycle. It's been pretty much amazing so far with no sides except bowel movements have been like bricks. I was debating how to do the diet, thought about just doing high cals and bulk. But i'm doing carb back-loading instead. 250g protein a day, under 30g carbs until post workout. Then post workout i'm using ON 2:1:1 frosted flakes, 1 scoop isolate 1 scoop casein before bed. ZMA before bed. Dosed up to 45mg epistrong on the second week.

Dylan would u suggest S-4 or Osta as part of the pct? I want to cut fat as fast as possible when i'm off cycle. Thanks
 
So I should still do carb backloading (CBL) while in PCT? I'm just curious about doing CBL while on epi, It should work the same while on PH yea? Can I use osta in pct? Thanks for the help. How many pumps forma should I use per day?
 
So... My libido died about week 2. I'm on my 6th week now. Was running epi 15/30/45/60/75/75 hcgenerate n2gaurd n2slin... Pct is unleashed pct combo daa power chews clomid and osta. Anything else I can add to help get the libido back? Thanks

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