Epi-Strong Complete Stack?

[cdemmel]

Hey guys,

I have read around your site quite a bit. Done a lot of research. I am looking at starting a first, very light, cycle. I dont need huge gains, and therefore looked around quite a bit at a simple test cycle. However I dont like the risk involved, with obtaining, quality, etc.

So, in leiu of that, I came across Epi-Strong on the forum. I looked it up on google, people seem to like it. Seems like it would be well suited to me needs.

After some reading I know you need to have liver support etc, and full blown PCT.

I found the Epi-Strong Complete Stack on Orbit Nutrition . com

It includes:
1x Bottle EpiStrong (90 Caps)
1x AI Cycle Support
1x PES Erase
1x Purus Labs Recycle

I would link it, but I have not gotten enough posts yet.

Looked up each item in the stack, they all seem to have reasonably good reviews from those that have used them. Would this be a good route for a beginner like me to take? Or should I look into creating my own stack and PCT?


I appreciate all your input, Thanks.

 

[cdemmel]

Thank you! I was actually thinking of just running this oral first time through. I really have no good way to get hold of gear, guy that was going to help out went overseas. Your cycle is actually very similiar to what I was originally planning, and I agree that I would want to run a single AAS first time through.

From what I have read this is a decent starter, not huge gains, but low sides and MUCH easier to get hold of and authenticate. So, do you think this would be a viable alternative.

Additionally, I eat a STRICTLY clean diet, chicken, brown rice, tuna, salmon, Quinoa, oats, and veggies pretty much. Plus supplements. So I am not overly worried about sticking to that. However, I appreciate the input, and will keep in mind that it is all the more important on cycle.

 

[shibs]

An oral only cycle is actually what a lot of beginners pick for their first. Especially from the designer steroids like beastdrol, helladrol, and epi-strong. That stack that you posted is a good starter stack, it would fit your needs well. The only thing is you can only run it for about 4 weeks compared to a test cycle that which would last typically 10 weeks. If you do decide to do just a test only cycle though don't do nolvadex as your pct. There are much better options. Look at the PCT sticky at the top. Let us know what you decide and if you have any more questions. Welcome to EF

 

[shibs]

I have always used nolva or clomid, both are sufficient and will get the job done. The main reason beginners run oral only for the first time is usually they are scared of needles. Thats the main reason. And i can assure you will not get near the gains you would if you ran a test only for your first cycle. I would never recommend an oral cycle only to anybody!! Thats a first!!

It may be that they're afraid of needles, but my reason for a first oral only cycle was because of the price, they're legal (the ds's) and they're readily available.

Nolva and clomid for pct are getting worse and worse as better stuff has been coming out. A nolva only pct is getting pretty ancient now a days, and he will retain much more gains with one of the better options. Read the PCT sticky above and you will see what I mean..

True, a injectable cycle might give better gains, but the oral only cycle will come faster and give great gains. I put on 50lbs in a month on my bench press on beastdrol. Plus, the guy said he's not looking for huge gains right now.

 

[cdemmel]

Thanks guys.

I really dont have a need for giant gains, I would rather "wet my feet" and take it easy getting into the AAS field. I have no problem sticking myself, that honestly does not bother me, the real issue is getting hold of test. I had a solid way to do it, but as I said that fell through when he shipped out. And personally, walking up to the big guys at the gym asking for gear just does not appeal.

Someday when I get a reliable source, I would be happy to move up, but for now I am really just looking to supplement my day to day exercise, and get the best possible results, with the lowest risk, and the least possible sides (never heard that one right?)I know that orals are often worse for you, but as I said, I am not going to go bump some random liquid out of a brown bottle with a blue cap because a guy with 23 inch arms says its legit.

Reading Needtogetaas's post under OTC PCT has me wondering whether the holes left in the therapy in this pack are substantial enough to warrant more supplementation?

I am not real hot on the idea of spending 300 bones for a oral cycle, but as it is my only viable option, and health is #1, I will consider more supplements if need be.....Opinions?

 

[shibs]

Thanks guys.

I really dont have a need for giant gains, I would rather "wet my feet" and take it easy getting into the AAS field. I have no problem sticking myself, that honestly does not bother me, the real issue is getting hold of test. I had a solid way to do it, but as I said that fell through when he shipped out. And personally, walking up to the big guys at the gym asking for gear just does not appeal.

Someday when I get a reliable source, I would be happy to move up, but for now I am really just looking to supplement my day to day exercise, and get the best possible results, with the lowest risk, and the least possible sides (never heard that one right?)I know that orals are often worse for you, but as I said, I am not going to go bump some random liquid out of a brown bottle with a blue cap because a guy with 23 inch arms says its legit.

Reading Needtogetaas's post under OTC PCT has me wondering whether the holes left in the therapy in this pack are substantial enough to warrant more supplementation?

I am not real hot on the idea of spending 300 bones for a oral cycle, but as it is my only viable option, and health is #1, I will consider more supplements if need be.....Opinions?

Sounds like you need to go to elite-bodiez.com and check out their forum.

If you wanna stick with an oral only, then like i said i ran beastdrol with almost no sides, just a little lethargic. My post-cycle consisted of unleashed and post-cycle. the post cycle got me right back up on my feet in no time and i hardly lost anything. Highly recommend it. That stack you mentioned before should have you covered though.

 

[cdemmel]

You think that Beastdrol is alright first time through? Not going to overload myself?

 

[shibs]

You think that Beastdrol is alright first time through? Not going to overload myself?

definitely not, i think beastdrol is an excellent choice. make sure you get some N2Guard to do with your cycle or some other liver protector though.