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PIGEON-RAT
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ephedra is banned, but did they change any regulations concerning ephedrine hcl?
T-3 and/or clen.
HumanShell
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I'm stocking up right now with 6 bottles of ECA, and may buy more by the time the 2 month window is closed. It'll take forever to use it, but at least I'll have it for when I want. Afterwards...I'll try some *other stuff.
toga22
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For now I am going to stock up...
but after, I don't know...black market or clen. Who knows maybe I will have an ongoing broncitois problem and get a lifetime presciption.
Actually, in all reality, after taking ephedrine a while, even when cycling it, my body grows to expect the supplement. What is going to happen to the people that run out and BAM! have to quit cold...I think that could almost be as harmful as the supplement.
And why is ephedrine banned when other known toxins and killers like cigarettes are still on the market. And for the record, no I don't want cigarettes to be banned, smoking is a persoal choice, but in essence it is the same principal.
but after, I don't know...black market or clen. Who knows maybe I will have an ongoing broncitois problem and get a lifetime presciption.
Actually, in all reality, after taking ephedrine a while, even when cycling it, my body grows to expect the supplement. What is going to happen to the people that run out and BAM! have to quit cold...I think that could almost be as harmful as the supplement.
And why is ephedrine banned when other known toxins and killers like cigarettes are still on the market. And for the record, no I don't want cigarettes to be banned, smoking is a persoal choice, but in essence it is the same principal.
Fragadelic
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toga22 said:
Hey the government doesn't really give a shit about people's health - it's just some nitwit lobbyists pushing some agenda through.
It's ALL about the money - always has been.
big_bad_buff
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screw the government, wtf? theres been like 10 deaths and they bann it. like 200,000 people die from smoking every year, bann that shit, i dont get this at all.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/12/30/ephedra/
http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/12/30/ephedra/
obiwan9962
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not banned in canada
yet!
i don't use it for cutting
only for severe sinus probs but i will have to stock up anyway for that reason
sucks!
yet!
i don't use it for cutting
only for severe sinus probs but i will have to stock up anyway for that reason
sucks!
I went cold turkey about a month ago. It sucked in the beginning. Just ordered 6 more bottles.
RaZor Ramon
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They didn't banned ephedrine. It's an FDA approved drug as a brochilalor (sp?). I suggested the ECA stack to a girl who was trying to lose weight and has asthma and she said she felt it helped her breath. I take the ECA stack anyway when cutting or for pep. The average public doesn't really know about it. That's a good thing.
atlantabiolab
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OMEGA said:part of me is happy about the ban, and the addicted part of me is angy
lol
just kidding, actually i use it, and am happy it leaving us
I think its very bad for you
Ephedra is not dangerous, as shown in numerous studies not to mention basic common sense (155 deaths "linked", which is not the same as causative, from many millions of products sold...this demonstrates safety greater than Tylenol). Studies have shown that medical errors are the eighth leading cause of deaths in the US, I suggest we ban doctors.
This is all about the statist wishes of a few consumer advocates and the FDA's desire to regain power. Consumer advocates are nothing more than do-gooders who don't want you to have freedom to do anything they dislike, they are statists at heart, they appeal to the almighty state to cure them of their ills. The FDA has been fuming for years since the DSHEA act was passed which properly placed due process on the back of government. Prior to this act the onus to "prove" safety and efficacy was on the manufacturer, thus immensely limiting the availability of hundreds of products to the market. Who would spend 100 million dollars to prove the safety and efficacy of melatonin before they had made a dime off of the product? Who could? All of the products we currently use are directly related to the DSHEA act and government wants to regain control. We could have never obtained creatine, yohimbine, arginine alpha-ketoglutarate, St. Johns Wort, Kava, pro-hormones, etc. if not for this bill.
People who want to ban and regulate supplements hate freedom, they don't want others to have choices, they despise the concept of liberty, because it demands personal responsibility.
Forge
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I'm always amazed at the amounts of supplements people on this board take. If you can't take one you'll go after another, what I don't understand is why do you need any at all? Personally I'm all about freedom of choice, if someone wants to take ehedrine they should be allowed to, but I've never used the stuff and I'm a healthy fit and in shape guy. Is it really that big of a deal that you won't be able to use it anymore?
atlantabiolab
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Forge said:
Yes it is a big deal, not by virtue of the drug itself, but of the ideal of freedom. Every little regulation that people bend over and take up the ass is a reduction in liberty, all for the "good of the nation", mind you.
Allowing government the authority to restrict human actions, with as flimsy evidence as shown in the Ephedra ban, allows for anything to be outlawed as long as the human mind can contrive it.
I can guarantee that the nation would be in an uproar if the government was trying to ban porn. But the apathetic response of the masses is always, "well, at least it doesn't affect me", until that day when it does affect you.
Bigdawg1468 said:It isn't banned in Canada so I can get plenty
Really I thought it was banned here to now
obiwan9962
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obiwan9962 said:
i am wrong folks
yes you can circle this day
i said i was wrong
ephedra was banned here in canada over two years ago
what i use as a broncodialator is pseudoephedrine
sorry to have gotten your hopes up
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