Ephedrine/ Synephrine Stack?

[EL GAUCHO]

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[Rio 2006]

Citrus Aurantium is an additive in my ECA stack. Amazing results.

Caffeine 200mg per serving - Pure pharmaceutical grade caffeine is used instead of the weaker guarana or green tea to release free fatty acids from stored fat. When combined or stacked with aspirin it creates a synergistic effect.

Citrus Aurantium 250mg per serving - Metabolic Fuel RX contains a high amount of citrus Aurantium which contains Synephrine, N-Methyl Tyramine, Tyramine, Hordenine, and Octopine. These agents are B3 fat receptor fighting agents which are crucial for maximum fat loss.

Coleus Forskohlii 100mg per serving - Coleus Forskohlii increases natural thyroid function, important for long term fat loss. Dieting slows down the thyroids activity, which makes it difficult to continue to lose fat over an extended period of time. A sluggish thyroid is also the reason people rebound and regain their fat after dieting. Coleus Forskhlii works well because it counteracts the age-related decrease in response of fat cells to thermogenic agents (heat producing and calorie burning) agents.

Aspirin 100mg per serving - When added to caffeine it adds in creating the ultimate thermogenic environment through synergy.

Bioperine 5mg per serving - Thermogenic nutrient included in the formula that increases the absorption of all the fat burning compounds in Metabolic Fuel RX. Bioperine increases effectiveness and potency.

Yohimbine HCL 5 mg per serving - For those of you that have trouble losing fat in problem ares such as love handles, hips, thighs, and gluteus, Yohimbine HCL block all three Alpha fat receptors categories. Women will benefit greater from Yohimbine HCL than men since they tend to posses more A2 fat receptors. By blocking A2 fat receptors you will burn fat in hips, gluteus and thighs, creating a slim waistline.

This is a very powerful stack, but with this kind of dosages I expect a lot of people having adrenergic related side effects.
You have to remember that systemic effect of Yohimbine will lead to alpha 1 adrenergic activity prevalence, that added to ephedrine alpha and beta effects and caffeine stimulation ( and beta agonism also) can be hard on some people, specially those who are not used to taking those substances and had not yet developed some resistance.Nausea, palpitations, anxiety, imsonia, complete loss of appetite, all that can eventually do more damage than good in the process...
Maybe it would be better to reduce dosages and start with 1 caps in the A.M or before training( if day time) , feeling your response until you can establish your optimal dosage.
Caffeine 120mg
Ephedrine 15 mg
Yohimbine HCL 2 mg
Salicilic Acid ( buffered preferred) 50mg
You really don´t need anything else more...
As for Citrus, it raised from the ephedra ban, as a "safer" herbal "equivalent".
Citrus have 2 major active ingredients, being synephrine ( structure similar to epinephrine) and octopamine ( similar to norepinephrine). The only study about citrus aurantium and fat loss was tainted because the substance was not isolated, was mixed with large doses of caffeine and St John´s Worth.review of published literature shows that it can have sympathomimetic effects, like raising BP, but there is little evidence that it is an effective aid to weight loss. Synephrine has lipolytic effects in human fat cells only at high doses, and octopamine does not have lipolytic effects in human adipocytes.So, it can have synergistic and potentially dangerous additive sympathomimetic effects, and no evidence that would make a difference in fat loss when added to an already powerful satck such as ECA or even ECA plus yohimbe.
Maybe as a component in a mild lypolitic aid, to be used by people that cannot take strong sympathomimetics, it would be of help.

There is a very nice review on Citrus Aurantium , go to PUBMED and paste the reference below, then go for the free full text version, there is a lot of good info there.

Fugh-Berman A, Myers A. Related Articles, Links
Citrus aurantium, an ingredient of dietary supplements marketed for weight loss: current status of clinical and basic research.
Exp Biol Med (Maywood). 2004 Sep;229(8):698-704. Review.
PMID: 15337824 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


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[EL GAUCHO]

Good info man...very interesting!

 

[mm107]

if i didnt get a premade stacker i would modify it. I have grown a tollerence to the pills. so they prob arent as bad for me as some one just starting them...

 

[Rio 2006]

EL GAUCHO, you gave me RED, man, ouch!!!!

 

[mm107]

lmao i hope it was accidental

 

[Rio 2006]

Me too, LOL!!!

 

[EL GAUCHO]

how do you mean?

 

[EL GAUCHO]

Shoot did I give you negative Karma? Sorry bro! my mistake...will make it up to you when I'm allowed!

 

[Rio 2006]