Ephedrine Dependency...?

[Jafar]

Anyone here feel they take ECA or ECAY or NCA, etc. too much? If I take it for too long of a period I get weird. Angry, agitated, pissed like crazy. Then if I go off I just feel like plain old dog shit. Is this stuff addictive or what? How long should one go on/off? I never exceed one dose per day, but damn, its starting to fuck with my life.

After being on for just a couple weeks I have a hard time working out without it.

Am I alone on this one or what?

 

[BigTimer]

yup i have the same problem,u have to slowly get off it for ur body to readjust, I go on 5 days 2 days off and stay on like for only 3 months at a time then completly stop for a few weeks

 

[Johnny Cut]

im adicted to hydroxycut....like those ephedra akaloids caffine and asprine, keeps my workouts goin good

 

[rjl296]

I was the same way for over 1 year. Then just stopped. Felt like shit for a wee, but now I don't have a crutch. Too much is bad

 

[Jafar]

Well I went off for 10 days, today was my first time taking it since. Amps you pretty good after you take a break. I'm gonna try every other day for a little bit, and force myself to workout without it.

 

[bunkka]

The NYC isn't so bad... not noticably, at least.

I used to take Diet Fuel a lot. When I'd get off of it for a few days, I'd be absolutely useless. Wouldn't even feel like getting out of bed. It's a catch22 though, because if you keep taking too much, for long periods of time, you're not getting much benefit from anymore anyway.

For now.. I'll stick w/ NYC - though I don't think it's as effective for me, as ECA/Diet Fuel used to be. But, when I get back on those, I'll do a 5 day on/3 days off split.

 

[OMEGA]

fuck alllllllll stimulants



what comes up must come down

i remeber when we were children we had sooo much energy, then we had our first cup of coffee////////////////and so the story went =(

 

[bighead]

for me the side effects of taking ephedrine were away worse than any steroid i ever took including anadrol and the adderall which i took for studying.I was up to 150mg of ephedrine a day for awhile and even up to 180mg on some of the real tough days where i was training 2-3 times in a day.It was starting to totally fuck me up to the point of where i couldn't even function not to mention train without it,luckily i only kept this up for about 6 weeks before i stopped taking it cold turkey.My mood after a couple of hours after taking would be real pissy aswell.


It's something i would be very slow to touch again.I think adderall is very good and safe even though it's still classed as an amphetamine but fuck ephedrine.

 

[OMEGA]

you took 180 mgs of ephedrine a day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

check your heart out man, especially your arteries(or large valves leading to your heart).....they enlarge permamently with long term use

 

[bighead]

i didn't stay at that dosage for long before i saw sense.I was taking that amount split up over the day but it was still fucking with my head and i wasn't able to do anything then on the days i didn't take it.Nothing else that i ever took effected me so profoundly,there were a few more unpleasant side effects aswell that i don't ever want to repeat.



ephedrine is just not for me and i don't think anyone who does take it should ever go over more than 60mg in one day.

 

[buffdoc]

Ephedrine has significant central nervous system stimulatory effects. It's essentially amphetamine-like in its action. We used to use it in the OR and the labor suites in doses of 5 to 10mg, IV, to bring up blood pressure.
I've known anesthesiologists and nurses to get severely strung out on ephedrine, shooting many hundreds of mg per day IV. Not to be toyed with, even orally. Is the consensus that norephedrine is less stimulating?

 

[Baby Gorilla]

Basic rule....

With ECA or NYC, you're not supposed to stay on it more than 1-2 months at top. You cycle them.

I know with ECA, if you don't feel it, you gotta take more. Your body just adapts to the dosage. Hence, why you need to get off it or you'll take tons of it to feel anything.

 

[Jafar]

Well I don't know what my deal is. I've been taking it on and off for 9 years, never longer than two months straight, and I usually take a month or two off. I never exceed one dose per day. (25mg or so.) I'm not overly sensitive to any other substances, so I don't know why this crap affects me so much.


Does anyone know the science behind this stuff? I heard it causes the adrenal glands to release more adrenaline into the blood stream. Is that the case? If so, is there the possibility of doing permanenet damage to said glands over time?

 

[Delinquent]

I'm almost convinced that the long term ephedrine use has caused my anxiety probs. I never had anxiety until a year or so on them. Only problem is that we have to workout at 6am so getting up at 5am is not an option without them. I've tried numerous times but with me only getting 5-6 hours of sleep due to sleeping probs, I have no energy whatsoever. I don't even take that much either. I only take 2 or 3 xenedrines before our workout. None during the day. I feel 10 times more burnt out now than I did when I was doing drugs

 

[doublebicep]

The crash is hard even after I try 800mg morning ed for 2 days. I do this on ocasion over a weekend - Sat and Sun. I get a lot of stuff done. Monday morning at work is a bitch. Coffee helps but it takes me 2 or 3 days to completely re-charge.

I have the black caps that contain 800mg of ephedra powder.

 

[robsatx]

Is there an EA

There must be a 12 step program for this stuff . . .

 

[Spectre]

It's important to taper it up and down and cycle it just as with anything else.

 

[dzuljas]

i dont see why people use it, unless they are superfatasses, just modifying your diet can help cut down the fat, just gotta be patient and patience is hard for bodybuilders

 

[buffdoc]

Well I don't know what my deal is. I've been taking it on and off for 9 years, never longer than two months straight, and I usually take a month or two off. I never exceed one dose per day. (25mg or so.) I'm not overly sensitive to any other substances, so I don't know why this crap affects me so much.


Does anyone know the science behind this stuff? I heard it causes the adrenal glands to release more adrenaline into the blood stream. Is that the case? If so, is there the possibility of doing permanenet damage to said glands over time?

OK, here it is. Ephedrine is a sympathomimetic (mimics the sympathetic nervous system). It is a mixed agonist (ie, it stimulates both alpha and beta adrenergic receptors).
These drugs are also categorized as direct or indirect acting. Direct: directly stimulate the receptors
Indirect: cause the release of norepinephrine (noradrenaline), which then stimulates the receptors. This release is from nerve terminals throughout the body, especially in the CNS>

Ephedrine is both an indirect and a direct acting agent. The indirect mechanism can lead to "burnout", ie, depletion of neurotransmittors of which it stimulates the release. This is similar in many ways to the profound depression, apathy, anxiety, etc, that can occur after a run of meth, or MDMA, or, in the old days, MDA, or to a lesser extent, LSD. Neurotransmitter depletion. A bad feeling!
Make sense?

 

[buffdoc]

bump. needs to be read.

 

[Jafar]

ttt